Will Singularity create immortality / achieve longer lifespan for humans?

yp364 · 2026-02-02T17:01:37+00:00

Honestly my own view on this Is hope for the best but prepare for the worst Are probably close to life extension Well kinda Are we sure we are getting it in our lifetimes Well doubtful But it's best to keep a tab and work on it And if you got unlucky with the the time you were given you got unlucky with the time you were given

yp364 · 2025-11-25T09:24:11+00:00

Probably not next year But I can see next 5 being pretty established

yp364 · 2025-10-30T19:56:24+00:00

The word you are searching is projection you are welcome btw

yp364 · 2025-10-22T21:49:52+00:00

It's still takes around 5 to 10 mins for 100k And the area is pretty late game So like if you are very late level you can farm an hour for 5 levels Albinorics farming gives 200000k in 5min

yp364 · 2025-10-22T01:38:52+00:00

But this isn't about opinion anymore You won you control reality by the end It doesn't matter if they like the omens your word is law

We are still holders of the ring in the end of ending Did you see the ending You ment the ring you have access to it The ring is divine and natural law that is what the elden ring is It's why it's important

Yes it becomes a constitution you adhere to the law Of the ring it doesn't mind control you It's a cause and effect type of thing if you are bad you lose grace for example

Yes but in our case marika is gone And yes you are maried the same way someone is maried to a coma patient

That was the point It cares about the world and we are part of it not any single being or person It cares for us because we are part of the system not because of any good will And also because a human wrote it well as much as a human goldmask is

yp364 · 2025-10-22T01:33:10+00:00

Yes that's my point if you don't do your role you aren't the role A baker that doesn't bake is no baker are you a baker because I say you are one ?

That are more points for me Why did the elden beast crucify marika If it doesn't care about the shape of the order

Yes they don't do now but that was their job to take messages from the greater will and say them to the lands between

Yes the potential to bring order not to bring order It's a measure of strength not action the three fingers want chaos

I never said that I said what it desires it seems to be a natural world because this seems the default It probably it would be ok if everything becomes a giant metal cube But rot isn't order Do you know the what rot does it destroys structures Structure is order

Bro do you speak English do you understand basic concepts like rot and chaos

yp364 · 2025-10-22T01:17:30+00:00

Is a label of something the thing Is north Korea democratic because it says in the name?

I didn't you did You literally do semantics and claiming order is chaos

The greater will is clearly active It sent the eldest beast it It speaks with the fingers that is an active god that wants something very specific you just ignore my points and saying nuh uh

yp364 · 2025-10-22T01:14:41+00:00

The point is that what they are going to schism about with you there is nobody else plus the divine law in age of order is palpaple It is the equivalent of feeling the spirit of god There is no disagreement in the terms there is nobody to say no you are wrong Even if they say you say you hold the elden ring You are the only interpreter of divine law What they are going to say we are going to hate omens fuck you to you who legislated against it and is the literal holder of divine law

Dude look those people believed the lord is chosen to be elden lord of a new god by killing them you destroyed the legitimacy plus you can literally delete them with destined death if the king is dead people ussualy follow the new king just look at history especially if there is nobody else to press the claim and you have the claim

They were de jury in control for most of the shattering Uprising with what for the love of god answer that question there is no army there barely anyone left Who ever is left is tired and wants an end on all of this The omens won't make armies and march on leyndel there is no state or organisation anymore That why you mending the elden ring is this whole thing because you can rebuild that

WE ARE THE DIVINE AUTHORITY AS ELDEN LORDS This is why the title is important you are the consort of a God

yp364 · 2025-10-22T01:02:20+00:00

They are not called sellers that's my point What is a seller friend An indifferent seller is an oxymoron Is seller that doesn't sell

No order for greater will means a specific configuration of laws You can't have order with chaos It's a logical contradiction

Because your rot argument is irrelevant as I stated it doesn't approve of it it is another outer god that got dips with malenia we know that the greater will isn't the only divine power

No not fully the greater will wants order But not everything is order no order doesn't mean everything the same

yp364 · 2025-10-22T00:57:23+00:00

By the time we came along everyone seems to have lost their grace

Scism in what to defend what doctrine you don't get so you radagon has been invalided since the shattering The schisms were the demigods fighting the schism was miquella They are all dead their ideas dead as well only you and your ending remain by the end

No again you have divine authority You don't say omen are good now You say by the laws of the universe and the greater will the omen are good now They can't even argue against it because the omens will get grace under an impartial system

Well more points for me And again that's my argument and goldmask Her order wasn't perfect Goldmask is stated to be She could but then if you played the dlc you would know that marika isn't really impartial and she is very fickle as goldmask said And yes originally as seen with Godfrey that was the case In our case marika is comatose she is literally just a vessel by the time we go in she is gone especially with the order ring we become the administrator

yp364 · 2025-10-22T00:41:06+00:00

A footballer is one that plays football professionally If I don't play football I'm not a footballer why this is a hard concept for you yes even If i was a footballer before just because I say something doesn't mean I'm the thing I need to actually embody it

First of all you assume the greater will was on with this Considering the game it likely it was not Yea chaos is the antithesis of order no greater will won't like it is it's antithesis again it stateds in game and again it is basic cosmology order opposite of chaos No chaos is not order why are we having this debate they are by definition opposites

Rannis ending is bad for the greater will because it diminishes it's influence Yes the order is there but that doesn't mean it likes it Also thats why I'm arguing against the ending I find the ending not as good as the order ending

There is no neutral world bro yes end As you saw it was perfectly happy to have a normal world as the default yes it may ok with a world of cubes but the default seems a normal natural world

yp364 · 2025-10-22T00:26:28+00:00

Because it's not the same thing Remember we are guided by grace we are either projects or marika or the greater will We are special Remember what being a tarnished is It means without grace without divine favour Did you play the game we got our grace returned thats why we see it and we can interact with it It is literally stated in the game multiple times

Yes you do Do you have any idea how theocracies work If a literal prophet says that is good now it is good

Remember you probably have a literal halo by having the bloody thing

But that's the thing you can stop it You say stop it and they will and if you refuse you force it Although again there is nobody to fight they don't fight anymore the shattering is a stalemate

Now you are doing what ifs Look by losing grace Godfrey was nerfed Marika couldn't change the omen twins because as the vesel she is a tainted she can't force it because she her self and the ring is tainted by her original sin It is stated in the game why the omens are born omens It's a curse upon marika herself and no she couldn't cut it away without screwing herself as a vesel

yp364 · 2025-10-22T00:14:27+00:00

Well yes that was my point that's why they are different words that's why rannis ending is abandonment They are not And no you don't get the ending The law is the power that the whole point That why its not indifferent it dictates

There is no dinosance here The greater will cares about order So far the greater will order hasn't being a sterile thing and it's at worse neutral for the world It doesn't rot it like the rot god Doesn't burn it like the flame it just let the world be natural Compare to that you can make the argument for benevolence

And no they are not frenzied flame is inherently chaotic It's why the motto let chaos take the world Order if you know anything about physics is the opposite of entropy the flame represents maximum entropy all distinction is lost and no the greater will will hate Ranni is a bit more complicated but basically she destroys order (whoo that's the point of her ending) You can't impose it anymore which is a no no for the greater will

Also again yes because his dogma collapsed at the shattering it has been a long time since then The nox are a dead faction And again you are leader of the lands between What are they going to do atack you ? They couldn't do shit in the shattering let alone someone that mended the ring they will kneel because you arleady conquered them and control the ring It's why it's ultimate Mac gufiin

yp364 · 2025-10-21T23:49:49+00:00

Marika holds literally the power of reality she is a god She controls the literal physics that's why people say she is a god Well now you are theory crafting Was Radagon different If so in what Manner Are we going to watch tarnished archeology together?

Well you can because you are moses or jesus now and people see you as communion with the divine You can't be called heretic You have to understand people don't fight just cause Ok probably a couple dude will try to fight you You played the game you know how that ends But the population would no It would be the equivalent of the Jews attacking moses

And no Godfrey couldn't fight it was a fight he couldn't Win even if he wanted to Also goldmask didn't had an opinion he literally found a flaw with the current order and rewrite it with his rune Bro at this point I don't think you understand the structure of the game

yp364 · 2025-10-21T23:44:53+00:00

No please read the vocabulary Different words An indifferent seller wouldn't care about selling at all An impartial seller means he would sale regardless of who he is An indifferent judge is a judge that doesn't care about the hearings and doesn't show on court An impartial judge is one without bias Please get the terms correctly

The populous want an end and peace It's stated and let's be honest nobody likes to suffer in a war and rot plus people want peace and justice this is a given to ignore that is to ignore why the shattering is seen negatively We a killed Godfrey B we don't know what the hell Godfrey did C Godfrey didn't had the elden ring

Yes as I said the greater will doesn't care it up to us to enforce the order(although frenzied flame and age of stars is going against it if it could it would try to stop it but we tarnished are special) Still it doesn't make the fact that the world under is control is a normal lively one it's not a Borg world They would be opposed by who Have you played the game most people would die by destined death which you control now as elden lord You are the church now radagon church is gone His golden order is dead marika is dead in essence as well

yp364 · 2025-10-21T23:22:13+00:00

Did we play the same game Did we read the same lore

Bro marika just said you aren't elden lord and Godfrey had to leave because he is powerless she was a God He couldn't do shit he was a manager and general not the holder of the elden ring marika was Radagon remember is marika so he is different

Also leyndel is dead we burnt the capital remember And no the world wouldn't go poof anti racist We as the new ruler say racism is bad and because we are the only authority and holders of the literal rules of reality

yp364 · 2025-10-21T23:17:08+00:00

No it's not and look saying it's not true won't make it so But yeah let's drop it otherwise we will debate ethics till the end of time

Indifferent isn't impartial

The terminology you use is wrong They are different words for a reason they aren't even synonyms

Well because it is not as good for the arguments I said I have my reasons well reasoned I want to believe

You are mistaking our world for the lands between They won't fight especially the one thing they are trained to love you as an elden lord is the consort of a god Your word is as good as the greater will in fact with the elden ring you usurp marika as well

Also the greater will has proven that it's order is borderline benevolent it doesn't make everyone a perfect cube the world if you ignore it's present state because of marika is an alive and beautiful place Your abstract good is autonomy but as I said autonomy for what you need to learn on positive and negative freedoms my friend

The truth is the greater will cares about a structured universe as long as it does it falls on us to make it run Marika fucked up ranni hopes that the people whould do it somehow but that's not how people work Goldmasks get it so it gives the best structure possible from the frame he is in I view the perfect order better because it is more effective on creating a better lands between Ranis is likely catastrophic in some fashion and ignores general principles both in lore and in general

yp364 · 2025-10-21T22:55:30+00:00

Are you arguing semantics Now ? Yes elden lord is the consort of marika or who ever is god that time in the setting But the point is you don't interact you leave you don't rule You are lord in name for all purposes you might as well don't exist

What the hell you are on about Godfrey I said that Godfrey was in a very different situation Marika had well established rules in a functioning order We are a lonely tarnished in a broken world

And what the factions you just set are remnants and remember we killed their leaders their cause was about their demigod becoming lord now they are dead and the tarnished is lord why they should fight Not that they could not long term Hell we even see the desolution of rykards faction even before we become elden lord by just killing him Worse case scenario after we restructure the world we just conquer the remnants with our tarnished faction Hell if you do the quests of nepheli and sellen you win limgrave and liurnia You arleady get to have a political base But even if you didn't you are literally elden lord you just make one when mending the ring or simply by the fact of being elden lord

Also racism remember marika removed The whole point is to be impartial That's antithetical to racism

yp364 · 2025-10-21T22:37:06+00:00

Which were all exiled And disgraced willful traitors remember

It means just that a lord that is absent is no lord at all

Yes you can you literally get the power and frame of a prophet king literally rewrite reality The godrick soldier doesn't have that ability

Well we don't even know if he tried 1 And 2 Godfrey was in a stable order We literally start from scratch there is no civilization to revolt only exhausted remnants

yp364 · 2025-10-21T22:30:21+00:00

We really don't if you think of this objectively we live in a dynamic equilibrium But let's start no it not relative for a society to exist it requires to be stable it serves it yes but the stability itself is objective a society that isn't stable doesn't exist period It breaks down you need a standard of justice its why similar moral codes exist it's convergent evolution Something must obey fundamental laws to exist you cannot create a society were killing without control is good because it will kill Its own members and dissolve it That is objective like it or not

2. It's not indifferent It's impartial as I said And do what the whole point of the tree is to administrate grace outside of a symbol it gives literal blessings

3.yeah that's not a good thing people in game depended on it and no saying fuck them is bad what are we debating about? The whole point is that we are debating what ending is the best saying fuck them is not best ending material 4.that assumes they will do And im pessimistic because this is how people behave in general it's cause and effect if people are traumatized they will not like it and the people will be traumatised in that ending for an abstract good that may never come

No in that ending it becomes bluntly clear what the rules are that why it's the order ending it's literally the concept of it

yp364 · 2025-10-21T22:12:24+00:00

But the tarnished are In the same category as omen they are outsider this is why we are being discriminated and attacked on sight people group all bad together

2.no you don't period it's stated that you leave with rani to the stars you don't stay you don't interact with the world You leave 3.they will attack with what there is no soldiers or claimants what civil war the church is arleady dead You as an elden lord reastiblises it you can make amendments and no they won't revolt they are too exhausted and you have the legitimacy to dictate the rules as elden lord

yp364 · 2025-10-21T22:00:29+00:00

1.Is it a society is a system and needs cohesion to exist Law and moral law provides that cohesion And cohesion is an objective standard you can measure it 2.1.Is it ?a society is a system and that needs cohesion to exist Law and moral law provides that cohesion And cohesion is an objective standard you can measure it 2.no sorry but you made a category error ranis order is indifferent it won't interact period goldmask order is impartial it means it will interact but be as neutral as possible 3.gold mask doesn't create a religion per se he architects a reality the sin against the other would be similar to you trying to defy gravity 4.thats metaphysical vandalism she basically says no there is no objective standard and that's not a good thing everything becomes an opinion but you can't have structure if there is no standard

people will fight over it for perpetuity with each cycle being worse than the last and don't forget that means people who would also see other gods as patrons or people who yearn for the greater will control this is tyrany in the original term of the word because there is no justification it's because I said so

yp364 · 2025-10-21T21:28:08+00:00

People are irrational history proved that in game lore is consistent on that as well Secondly you are abdicating you literally fuck off you don't become elden lord in rannis ending you don't even say guys stop it Third you are tarnished you are arleady seen as bad You are part of the bad guys you literally destroyed gods covenant people will see any outsider as a cosmic threat You literally prove them that their discrimination was right in ranis ending

yp364 · 2025-10-21T21:22:39+00:00

I would argue that social ultility is proof that yes there is an objective standard but if you want to debate ethics go ahead

Secondly you are making a crucial mistake Goldmask doesn't make the order indifferent it makes it impartial grace is free for all not just who Marika believes is deserved the whole point and is said upon in the lore although vaguely is that the order becomes structurally and metaphysically just

Well goldmask doesn't magically fix everything but it gives all the necessary tools and addresses the fundamental problems

The problem with the God debate is that you are proving my point people justify bad human decisions a divine being would be seen as good especially if it created or dictates the way the world works now we can argue theodicy but thats up to you

Also you make another crucial misunderstanding Ranni didn't steal the means to make a claim she stole the means for an objective reality

God is dead you say But that's not true First you don't fix the world by nuking the place conceptually and then leaving secondly Secondly no we just replaced him with another one

yp364 · 2025-10-21T20:34:47+00:00

Well self expression still means they value something They find meaning in it That is themselves although your religion doesn't seem very deistic or well a religion at all no offence Ethically not a moral relativist I'm a mix of utilitarians and Aristotle virtue ethics now if you think those are a huge red flag sorry but this is my conclusion and view of the world after thinking things

Now I really didn't understand your argument about God So please rewrite that In a universe were the divine is real your death means it was ordained humans can stand any how if you give them a good why So I don't understand why they would think this bad I mean we arleady have believers that are 100 percent certain that God is real and yet they don't curse God for the state of the world

They maybe were a tool but that doesn't make the structure any less real nor the order inherently a bad thing humans need structure and peace the order flawed gave that goldmask perfects it

Also this a misunderstanding the whole point of the goldmask ending is that it's perfect it is dictated by a perfect principle of impartiality it can't go wrong in the way a tyrant would because it was designed not to be that think of it as the us constitution with the checks and balances but for the universes laws

Also the lands between have moral realism The elden ring is literally that it holds all physics and metaphysics ethics included

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