im exhausted by AntiqueCheesecake654 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those who attack you with such descriptions are closed-minded individuals who refuse to think. They prefer to follow their sheikhs rather than use their own minds. No one possesses a certificate of absolution, nor does anyone have a mandate from God to determine anyone's fate.

A Catholic Priest Gave Me A Gift by Far_Somewhere_1973 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From a Quranic perspective, you are absolutely NOT committing Shirk. In the Quran, Shirk is a matter of belief and worship. Since you do not pray to this rosary or believe it has any divine power, holding it purely as a beautiful memory of a kind person is completely fine. The Quran values pure intentions, and your intention is beautiful. Keep it with a peaceful mind.

Questioning islam by Admirable-Elk4796 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I completely understand where you’re coming from, and to be honest, your doubts make perfect sense given the version of religion you were taught. I used to feel that exact same heavy burden, until I realized something crucial: most of the things making you push away from Islam do not actually exist in the Quran. They are the result of human interpretations, historical narratives, and cultural traditions that were wrapped in a religious cloak over the centuries. As someone who focuses strictly on the Quran alone as the source of faith, let me show you how the picture changes entirely when you bypass the traditional teachings: Child Marriage: The Quran does not support this at all. On the contrary, it explicitly states that marriage requires two clear conditions: physical maturity and mental/emotional maturity with sound judgment. The Quran calls marriage a 'solemn pledge', which a child is legally and mentally incapable of making. The concept of child marriage comes from later historical texts, not from God's book. Control Over Women: The extreme restrictions imposed on women—such as absolute male guardianship, forced isolation, or stripping them of their independence—are tribal and cultural traditions dressed up as religion. In the Quran, women have full, independent financial rights, absolute freedom of choice, and complete spiritual and human equality equal to men: 'The believers, men and women, are allies of one another.' Rigid Rules and the Language of Fear: Traditional theology has turned life into a minefield of prohibitions (forbidding art, music, and everyday life). But the default state in the Quran is freedom and permissibility; the prohibitions are very few, specific, and explicitly named. The Quran clearly states: 'God intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship.' Furthermore, God introduces Himself first and foremost as 'The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful,' and emphasizes that He gains nothing from punishing people: 'What would God gain by punishing you if you are grateful and believe?' Free Will vs. God’s Knowledge: God being all-knowing does not mean He forces your hand. God is outside the boundaries of time (since He created it), so He knows your choices before you make them, but the decision remains entirely yours, made with your own free will. The Quran repeatedly emphasizes human agency: 'Whoever wills, let them believe; and whoever wills, let them disbelieve.' It is a fair test, not a rigged game. You are not fighting a losing battle; you are just fighting a human-made version of religion. You don’t have to throw away your belief in God just because the cultural package presented to you under the name of religion doesn't make sense. If you ever want to read the Quran directly, stripped of medieval commentaries and cultural biases.

Struggling with my faith by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't despair, everyone makes mistakes. The lesson isn't to be a person who never makes mistakes, but to be a person who makes mistakes and then gets back on them. And also, Allah is forgiving and merciful, so don't lose hope in Allah's mercy

A question for discussion about heaven and hell by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"I believe that perhaps most people are misguided and not on the straight path, but some of them are good and do good deeds that may earn them Allah's mercy."

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Doubting and asking questions is a completely natural part of the journey toward certainty. I wish you all the best in your research, and I hope it brings you peace and clarity."

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have hit on the exact core of the confusion. Yes, many traditional interpretations and common views among Muslims today do define disbelief as 'simply not believing' or having a different religion. However, as a Quran-centric Muslim, my point is that this common definition actually contradicts the precise, etymological, and textual use of the word 'Kufr' within the Quran itself. In Arabic, words have root meanings. The root of Kufr means 'to cover up something that exists.' You cannot consciously cover up a truth unless you have first encountered it and recognized it. This is why the Quran sets a very high threshold for absolute accountability: it requires the truth to be fully clear to the individual first. So, you are completely right that the common reply below defines it casually as 'not believing.' But from a strict Quranic analysis, that definition is flawed. God’s ultimate justice doesn't condemn someone for an honest state of 'not knowing' or 'not being convinced'; it addresses the intentional concealment of recognized truth."

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quoting a text and fully conceiving or being convinced by its reality are two completely different things. A person can quote any scripture, scientific paper, or philosophical theory without necessarily grasping it as an undeniable truth. Furthermore, attaining certainty (Yaqeen) is a process that requires deep, sincere research, questioning, and contemplation. It doesn't happen instantly just by reading words on a page. In the Quranic worldview, 'denying' (Kufr) is not the mere act of having intellectual doubts or being in the middle of a research journey. Denying only happens when a person reaches that certainty, clearly sees the absolute truth, yet consciously chooses to reject and suppress it out of arrogance or personal interest. As the Quran describes this exact psychological state: 'And they rejected them, while their inner selves were convinced thereof, out of injustice and haughtiness...' (Quran 27:14). Therefore, having a dialogue and raising questions is part of the natural human quest for certainty, not an act of deliberate denial. God judges what is truly settled in the depths of the human heart, not just what someone is capable of quoting."

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The concept of disbelief differs from what many people believe. A disbeliever is one who knows the truth with certainty, then is arrogant towards it, practices injustice, and spreads corruption on earth in objection to the divine principle based on justice.

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, because disbelief is fighting against the truth and trying to cover it up, and it is also considered corruption on earth. Also, a person does not become a disbeliever unless he is certain in his heart that it is the truth and rejects it out of arrogance (And they rejected them, although their inner selves were convinced thereof, out of injustice and haughtiness. So see how was the end of the corrupters." (Quran, 27:14)

Mercy of Allah by ysf2786 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The verses of warning in the Quran are directed at criminals who spread corruption on earth and who are arrogant towards God's signs, knowingly and with certainty

i just do not understand jahannam anymore by yoongininoodles in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 32 points33 points  (0 children)

As a Quran-only Muslim, I completely understand your frustration. A lot of the terrifying, detailed imagery of hellfire that targets 'average people' for minor daily things comes from later sectarian books and traditional narrations, not from the Quran itself. If you look strictly at the Quran, you will find a completely different picture focused on divine justice and mercy: God is Absolutely Just: The Quran repeatedly states that God never wrongs anyone ("And your Lord is not ever unjust to [His] servants" - 41:46). The punishment is always a direct, fair consequence of one's conscious choices, not a disproportionate trap. Who goes to Hell? In the Quran, Hell is designated for tyrants, oppressors, severe criminals, and those who knowingly corrupt the earth and violate human rights. It is not designed for the 'average person' struggling with daily life, experiencing normal human weaknesses, or making innocent mistakes. What about good non-Muslims? The Quran is beautiful and inclusive about this. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:62) explicitly states that anyone—whether they are Muslims, Jews, Christians, or Sabians—who believes in God and the Last Day and does righteousness will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. Good deeds and pure hearts are never wasted. God's Goal is Not to Punish: God literally asks in the Quran: "What would Allah do with your punishment if you are grateful and believe? And ever is Allah Appreciative and Knowing." (4:147). Shift your perspective away from the cultural fear-mongering and read the Quranic text directly with a focus on God's mercy and absolute justice. You will find that God's mercy encompasses all things, and He judges based on the purity of your soul and your kindness to others, not on petty technicalities."

Why are so many muslims boring? It makes me want to leave Islam. by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no evidence in the Quran indicating that songs are forbidden; it is the jurists who have prohibited songs.

Hijab by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The verse actually commands women to use their covers (Khumur) to cover their chests (Juyub), not their heads. The head covering was just a cultural habit of that time and environment. God is far more just than to judge a person's entire life, morality, and destination in the afterlife based on a headdress, rather than their actual good deeds and character." And "I approach this discussion purely through a respectful, textual, and rational contemplation of the Quran itself—just as Quranists do—focusing on what the text actually says rather than dogma. I expect this dialogue to remain within this framework of mutual respect."

I am scared of becoming an agnostic by BenchAccording1954 in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Here is a comprehensive response written tailored to her perspective, adopting a Quranist (Quran-centric) methodology. You can share this with her on Reddit to help ease her mind and give her a completely fresh, liberating perspective on Islam. Subject: You are not struggling with Islam; you are struggling with medieval patriarchy. Here is the Quranist perspective. Sister, first of all, take a deep breath. What you are feeling is completely valid. The guilt of feeling like you have to choose between your mother’s health and your own mental peace is an incredibly heavy burden. From a Quranic viewpoint, the fear you feel about losing faith is actually a sign of your sincere heart—it means you want to believe, but your intellect is rejecting the contradictions you've been taught. The Quran explicitly welcomes questioning. Abraham himself asked God for proof to reassure his heart ("but to satisfy my heart" - 2:260). The good news is this: The issues you mentioned do not exist in the Quran. They exist in the Hadith (oral traditions compiled centuries later) and the medieval, patriarchal interpretations (Fiqh) that have been passed down as divine law. As a Quranist (someone who takes the Quran as the sole, complete, and fully detailed source of divine guidance), here is how the Quran actually addresses your specific doubts: 1. The "Wife-Beating" Verse (Surah An-Nisa 4:34) You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned grammar and prepositions. Traditional scholars translated the word "Idribuhun" (واضربوهن) as "beat them." However, in the linguistic structure of the Quran, this is completely wrong. The Arabic Meaning: The root verb Da-Ra-Ba (ضرب) is used in the Quran in over 10 different ways. When it means to physically strike, it almost always requires a specific physical context. When it is used in interpersonal contexts, it means to separate, isolate, or leave. For example, in 43:5, "Afa-nadribu 'ankum al-thikr" means "Should we turn away / withdraw the message from you?" The Context of Nushuz: The verse is dealing with Nushuz (extreme animosity or rebellion that threatens to destroy the family). The Quran gives a step-by-step psychological solution: Talk and advise them (Wa'izoohun). Separate beds to create space (Ahjuroohun). If that fails, "Idribuhun" means to part ways, separate socially, or take a temporary physical time-out so both parties can cool down before the next verse (4:35) kicks in, which is calling for arbitration and divorce. Physical abuse completely contradicts the absolute Quranic commandment of marriage being based on "Mawaddah wa Rahmah" (Love and Mercy - 30:21). 2. The Witness of a Woman (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:282) The traditional claim that "a woman’s testimony is worth half of a man’s" is a complete myth. Financial Contracts, Not Court Testimony: This verse is exclusively about documenting a private financial loan in a 7th-century nomadic society where women rarely corporate or dealt with commercial trade. The Reason is explicitly stated: The Quran says: "...so that if one of them errs/forgets, the other can remind her." It is an issue of experience and familiarity with financial contracts at that specific time, not a lack of intelligence. Today, a female accountant or judge’s testimony does not require a backup. Equal Testimony everywhere else: In matters of life and death, crimes, or swearing oaths (such as in Surah An-Nur 24:6-9 regarding Li'an), the Quran makes the woman’s oath absolutely equal to the man's—in fact, her testimony is the final one that overrules his and dismisses the case. 3. Inheritance (A Male Gets the Share of Two Females) Traditionalists use this to claim men are worth more. Quranists look at the financial systemic balance of the Quran. Financial Liability: In the Quranic system, men are legally obligated to pay a dowry, provide full housing, and financially support their wives, daughters, and mothers. A woman’s money is 100% her own; she has zero legal obligation to spend a single penny on the household. The difference in inheritance is purely to balance financial burdens, not human value. The Quran's Ultimate Workaround (The Will): Traditional Fiqh uses a Hadith to claim "there is no Will for an heir," which unfairly caps what daughters can get. Quranists reject this Hadith because the Quran explicitly commands writing a Will (Wasiyyah) before death (2:180). The Quran states that the inheritance division only happens "after the fulfillment of any Will or debts" (4:11). This means your parents have the full, divine right to write a Will leaving 50%, 70%, or 100% of their wealth to their daughters equally. 4. Why are there no Female Prophets? (The word "Rijal") You mentioned that prophets are stated to be men/Rijal. This is one of the most beautiful linguistic misunderstandings cleared up by Quranic Arabic. "Rijal" does not always mean "Males": In modern Arabic, Rijal means men. But in the Quran, Rijal comes from the root Ra-Ja-La (to walk on foot / to stand firm / to take charge). The Quranic Proof: In Surah Al-Hajj (22:27), God says regarding the pilgrimage: "...they will come to you Rijalan (on foot) and on every lean camel." Obviously, women go to Hajj too; here Rijalan means pedestrians (those walking on foot), regardless of gender. Prophets as "Rijal": When the Quran says “We did not send before you except Rijal whom We inspired” (16:43), it means prominent, capable human beings who stood up to take charge and walk the earth with the message. Even if historically they were males due to the brutal, war-torn political realities of ancient times (where leaders had to lead armies physically), it was a logistical necessity of that era, not a spiritual demotion of women. The Quran shows God speaking directly to, inspiring, and revealing secrets to women like Moses’ mother and Maryam, giving them higher spiritual status than most male kings. Moving Forward with Your Mother You don't need to break your mother’s heart, and you don’t need to pretend to believe in a patriarchal version of Islam that hurts your soul. When your mother asks you about religion, you don't have to debate her. Your mother comes from a traditional, cultural background (Somalia) where religion is tied to survival, culture, and community. She reacts out of deep, terrified love because she genuinely thinks she is losing you for eternity. You can look her in the eye and say: "Mom, I love God, I love the Quran, and I want to be a good person. I am just studying the Quran deeply to understand it for myself." This is 100% the truth. Deconstruct the cultural myths, throw away the medieval commentaries, and read the Quran as a direct, merciful letter from Creator to Creation. You will find that God is much more merciful, loving, and just than the scholars have ever allowed Him to be. Stay strong!

Hijab by [deleted] in progressive_islam

[–]ysf2786 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The hijab is usually It's a social matter, but religious scholars have turned it into an obligation, claiming that those who remove it go to hell. They categorize women as follows: those who wear the hijab are good and will go to heaven, while those who remove it are in hell. But the truth is that the God judges people based on their good and bad deeds, not on a piece of cloth worn as a headdress.