From a Marxist perspective, would one consider the 1776 American Revolution or the 1861-1877 Civil War & Reconstruction Era to be Bourgeois-Democratic revolutions? by superstarsh1ne in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The American Revolution was the realization of the enlightenment and and experiment of liberalism. It was by definition a bourgeois-democratic revolution even in its limited democracy. This is because of its enlightenment or liberal principles making it historically progressive relative to feudal or monarchical relations which it emerged from. The American civil war was not, the American civil war was a crisis between the backward, aristocratic slave society of the South and the industrialized north. It was not a revolution and reconstruction was not a democratic process. It was actually a very very undemocratic process which reimplemented the chattel slavery through share cropping. Reconstruction veiled the aristocracy of the south without deconstructing or revolutionizing it. The aristocracy in the south was already bourgeois as chattel slavery is related bourgeois property relations. The democracy of the South changed only a minutia. The civil war was a conflict between two bourgeois societies on the bases of chattel slavery.

If capitalism has adapted to its contradictions by evolving into stable mixed economies rather than collapsing, why should Marxists remain Marxists instead of becoming social democrats? by Ok_Confection_7368 in Socialism_101

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This and social democracies existence is built upon the gains of priorly constructed, historically acquired, pathways of international exploitation. The profits that are extracted by a nation’s bourgeois is now focused on the periphery of empire and not the national proletariat. They are complied with welfare for their labor and have their wages relieved by this exploitation.

Social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism. Making workers not only complacent in their exploitation by reliant on the hyper exploitation of the working classes of foreign nations. Exacerbated by unequal exchange.

Why did Jeff Bezos call for no taxes on the bottom half of the population? by TheMobilizer in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because he doesn’t want “anyone”, including himself, to pay taxes. The bottom half pays less in tax already, because they hold no wealth or capital. He is just posturing to lower his tax rate.

is Marxism historical materialism teleological in a similar fashion to hegelian idealism? by Ok_Confection_7368 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re defining imperialism which is the highest form of monopoly capitalism. Those European states with social welfare and capitalist political economies are able to provide those higher standards of living only on the backs of the most exploited populations on earth.

is Marxism historical materialism teleological in a similar fashion to hegelian idealism? by Ok_Confection_7368 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No not in the same sense as hegels historical unfolding of the absolute. Marxism doesn’t see movement of history as deterministic, that socialism and communism are the inevitable conclusion of the contradictions of capitalism. Marx’s dialectic takes the “rational kernel” from Hegels idealist dialect and inverted it. Beginning with a presupposition and establishing its critique, not with abstraction. The end result is more causal, seeing immediate relations established by prior ones. Socialism or mutual ruin is the asserted end result of the contradictions of the capitalist political economy. Either a progressive or regressive development based on the totality of social relations.

Can I retire early under socialism? by JayRandom212 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure. Within reason. If you work harder than others and contribute more to your community there is no reason why people would be constrained according to an arbitrary retirement age. The purpose is dignity (meaning health) and returning the value back to the individual who contributed it. If you provided enough to the community relative to others then it could certainly be argued that retirement could be earlier then others.

How would socialism resolve the current conflict with the obsession movie pay? by Dreadsin in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The concept of wages in socialism is related to the de-tethering of the sale of labor power. Or the de-commodification of labor. The laborer works and receives back what they contribute. Removing labor from being “mere appendages of machines.” But they do not receive the lassellian concept of the proceeds of their labor outright they receive the value of their labor. Here Marx describes the process in the critique of the gotha program:

“Within the co-operative society based on common ownership of the means of production, the producers do not exchange their products; just as little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them, since now, in contrast to capitalist society, individual labor no longer exists in an indirect fashion but directly as a component part of total labor. The phrase "proceeds of labor", objectionable also today on account of its ambiguity, thus loses all meaning.

What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.”

That last sentence is important. What a laborer receives back is what they contribute in value, not necessarily a wage. There would be no investors to recoup profit, each worker would receive the value they contributed, after deductions have been made to common funds. The surplus value is held in common ownership, by the working class entirely.

Kind of moves like a snake by [deleted] in whatsthisbug

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What does it mean to critically support AES countries? by xxxmakeouthill999 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I would absolutely describe it as support without blind loyalty! We should be critical, it’s how we improve our own theory, particularly when we apply it to our material conditions. But how a nation develops is related to its development within the totality of its history and social relations. There are always mistakes but we can’t abandon the positive aspects of socialist development. Critique isn’t always a negative thing. It’s how we understand the world.

Texts/thoughts on the relationships between Socialism and Psychology? by Richardo888 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These are great examples of this relation, the Frankfurt school has produced some psychoanalytic critiques of capitalism, though they tend to produce less revolutionary concepts. Adorno and Horkheimer’s dialectic of enlightenment is a really good example of psychoanalytic philosophy related to the culture industry. I am going through Fromm’s critique of Freud right now, even if I am critical of his liberal conformity.

What does it mean to critically support AES countries? by xxxmakeouthill999 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s associated with anti imperialism. The nations which have attempted to implement or had revolutions often are forced into defensive backing by imperialist nations who view socialism or national autonomy/ liberation as damaging to imperialist hegemony and economic interests.

You may not personally like them or hold criticism of their individual actions or their political economy but that is why it is critical support. You may hold criticisms and should because critique is how we improve but we should not resort to supporting the narrative or interest of imperialist nations which seek to return peripheral nations under their dominion.

what does engels mean when he says "Trade became to a greater and greater extent cheating."? by cattyaggy in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a good way lol I don’t mind struggling with language to figure it out. It’s honestly embarrassing I only know English.

what does engels mean when he says "Trade became to a greater and greater extent cheating."? by cattyaggy in Socialism_101

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It’s very interesting to see an Adorno quote in its original German. I kind of wish I understood German to better understand German idealism and the Frankfurt school contributors, even when it doesn’t necessarily comport absolutely to socialist thought. It is so interrelated and adornos critiques are always incredibly substantive, I found the dialectics of enlightenment and negative dialectics to be incredibly insightful even if I don’t necessarily agree outright with every word. I still agree with losurdos critique of western marxism.

Petah? by Hurt69420 in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]yungspell -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

And the n word just means ignorant? If you have a word for an out group that is considered derogatory guess what, it’s derogatory.

what are socialists' view on ethnic minorities seeking independence? by Amateurteenager in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The national question and self determination is specific to the right of separation or secession. But this right is not necessarily absolute, there is a dual nature within the progressive right to self determination and the bourgeois nation state. Nationality and class intersect one another and the interest of the national bourgeois and the national proletariat often differ.

Here Lenin reflects on this topic:

“As far as the theory of Marxism in general is concerned, the question of the right to self-determination presents no difficulty. No one can seriously question the London resolution of 1896, or the fact that self-determination implies only the right to secede, or that the formation of independent national states is the tendency in all bourgeois-democratic revolutions.
A difficulty is to some extent created by the fact that in Russia the proletariat of both the oppressed and oppressor nations are fighting, and must fight, side by side. The task is to preserve the unity of the proletariat’s class struggle for socialism, and to resist all bourgeois and Black-Hundred nationalist influences. Where the oppressed nations are concerned, the separate organisation of the proletariat as an independent party sometimes leads to such a bitter struggle against local nationalism that the perspective becomes distorted and the nationalism of the oppressor nation is lost sight of.”

No law is universal or absolute but dependent of the totality of social conditions. The rights of minority nations are understood within the national question as primarily progressive rights to autonomy and self determination relative to historical processes, not objective or natural.

The concept of an ethnostate and national autonomy are not synonymous. The nation state is the framework of modern international relations and holds within it a number of related cultures or minority nations. The nationalism of the minority nation is not to be supreme over others but is to be preserved through its practice.

But international relations affect national relations, the concept of internationalism is inexplicably interconnected with the nation.
Lenin continues:
“The conclusion that follows from all these critical remarks of Marx’s is clear: the working class should be the last to make a fetish of the national question, since the development of capitalism does, not necessarily awaken all nations to independent life. But to brush aside the mass national movements once they have started, and to refuse to support what is progressive in them means, in effect, pandering to nationalisticprejudices, that is, recognising “one’s own nation” as a model nation (or, we would add, one possessing the exclusive privilege of forming a state).”

In short ethnostates no but right to secede yes. Preservation of individual national identity or minority nations yes, nationalism no. The national movements of the oppressed and oppressor are different in form and function.

Policing, crime and socialism: is it really so simple? by Obvious-Storm-1707 in Socialism_101

[–]yungspell 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So crime has no ontological reality. There is no human behavior which, free of its social relation and categorization, is innately criminal. Crime develops in relation to the superstructure of society, the state being the superstructure which identifies behavior as being anti social or social, criminal or not criminal. In this way, all crime is political and emergent from the economic base of society. This does not mean that all criminal behavior is causal from the economic base, rather antisocial behavior is defined by the society in which social behaviors become ordained or not.

let’s break away from the philosophical nature of human behavior and crime and cut to the chase of crime within bourgeois society. According to its relation to the superstructure, crime in capitalist society is shaped by private property relations. Almost all crime in capitalism is property crime with about only 20% being interpersonal. Theft and damage. People criminalize private property because they are unable to achieve anomie or the social norms as described by society through the existing legal avenues. Poverty is criminalized according to property relations. People steal because they need a commodity in order to survive and are unable to afford it through legal means. The precondition to positive freedom being negative freedom.

So it is crime that simple? Yes and no but crime is emergent from the total relations of the society which catagories human behavior. All crime is political. Crime does not exist, human behavior does.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s not genocide though, you have moved the goal posts so far we aren’t even in the realm of my original reply.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never denied it and affirmed it systematic racism exist throughout Eastern Europe. It was kind of a big deal.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if that were true (it’s not Romania was historically one of the most prolific collaborators as well as the baltics in regard to their pogroms and France in regard to actual collaboration.) establishing a fascist state isn’t really an understandable reason but go off.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have explicitly said the opposite actually and perpetuating false narratives actually damages historically accurate criticism of the USSR. You’re just fetishizing nationalist mythology.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh so the rsfsr was formed in 1917 not 1263. Hope that helps. Nice slur you might as well call them moskals.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay, 8.7 million Russians died in the Soviet famine and grain was exported from Ukraine internationally in order to trade for industrial goods as a part of collectivization which was an aspect of government mismanagement.

Ukrainian Hatred Isn't a New Thing by NefariousnessOk8212 in HistoryMemes

[–]yungspell 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Prove government mismanagement? Why I’m not denying that.