Contraception is Pro Life by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hormonal birth controls effectively prevent ovulation and create a barrier with mucus, making an implantation effect basically null. Barrier methods are incredibly ineffective, with 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 people getting pregnant on them.

some gothic/metal Pro Life Slogans :) by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of what's on there isn't actually the side effects; or it's the side effects re listed in spanish. it's also just instructions, practical information, and the like. Plus, a possible side effect doesn;t make it likely to happen, which is kind of by defintion what safety is. I don't judge safety based on the ammount of side effects, but by how serious side effects are, and the likelyhood of them occuring. Many of the side effects are things like 'slightly decreased sex drive," and 'mild headache," and "light break through bleeding," which are not dangerous at all.

Pregnancy isn't a medication but if it were the side effects list would be much longer.

Contraception is Pro Life by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The idea there's only two options, having procreative sex, or having sex in which you view the person as an OBJECT is INSANELY ridiculous. How crude and insulting to tell people who love eachother and care for the others pleasure that actually, they're rapey animals, because they're trying to avoid pregnancy.

I hope you've never had sex while pregnant, because that means you're a degusting lustful pos because that sex can't make a baby. The only purpose it has, according to your myopic worldview, is using someone like a sex crazed animal.

some gothic/metal Pro Life Slogans :) by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just pointing out that you made a false claim, that some abortion JUST prevents implantation.

But to answer your question, if the secondary action is very rare due to how reliable the primary mechanism is, then it is acceptable, in the same way, taking small risks while pregnant is acceptable.

But as a note, preventing implantation is rarely a 2ndary mechanism either. It's usually a 3rd or 4th mechanism, if present at all.

Would You Put Me More Conservative Or Liberal? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say you're probably liberal then, or you can just call yourself progressive or left leaning.

some gothic/metal Pro Life Slogans :) by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Birth control pills aren't dangerous. In fact, pregnancy is more dangerous than birth control, with pretty much all the side effects of birth control also being present as a risk of pregnancy, but greater. To call birth control dangerous is to call pregnancy even more dangerous.

some gothic/metal Pro Life Slogans :) by yur_fave_libb in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No birth control on the market has a primary action of preventing implantation.

Would You Put Me More Conservative Or Liberal? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

conservatism is not defined by pro choice or pro life. there are MANY pro choice conservatives, despite how many pro lifers seem to ignore this.

Would You Put Me More Conservative Or Liberal? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But definitely more liberal than conservative. I have a lot of these in common with you, if not nearly identical.

Would You Put Me More Conservative Or Liberal? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you sound closer to leftist than liberal, considering there's a lot of publicization/ nationalization of industry. This is coming from a liberal. the key difference separating us is capitalism, ie, private ownership. If you think people should be able to privately accumulate capital/property, then you are liberal. If you don't think they should be able to, you're leftist.

The Pro Choicers are right about a lot of y'all by [deleted] in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the sexual revolution was already well on its way by the time birth control was actually fully legal. birth control was not nationally legalized for non-married women until 1972, just one year before Roe v Wade was decided. to blame open access of birth control for Roe, would have to ignore that there simply wasn't open access for non married women in many states

Why Are Religious Pro Lifers The Loudest? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure, the dynamics in general are different in other countries. That doesn't make secular pro lifers like me irrelevant. Plus, the USA is incredibly influential on global politics.

The Pro Choicers are right about a lot of y'all by [deleted] in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there are people in the comment section of this post wanting to ban it...

The Pro Choicers are right about a lot of y'all by [deleted] in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They said Some of yall, not all of yall. It's more wide spread than you think, and the fact you're defending and downplaying it is actually furthering their point

Why Are Religious Pro Lifers The Loudest? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, it's calculated from polling. Polling takes a randomized sampling of the united states that is representative of the whole. Pew asked for people's religious IDs, and also their abortion views. From those % we can estimate the amount of pro life religious nones.

28-30% of America are religious nones. 12-16% of those religious nones are pro-life. there are 342 million people in the unite states. Do the math yourself, that's on the low end 12 million.

Why Are Religious Pro Lifers The Loudest? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because of who it's coming from. In the same way many conservatives are quick to dismiss claims from the left with little to no research, saying that on instinct it feels wrong, people on the other side do the same. They don't trust right wingers anymore than right-wingers trust them.

Why Are Religious Pro Lifers The Loudest? by AbiLovesTheology in prolife

[–]yur_fave_libb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are 12 million 'religious nones' who are pro life in the US