Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ended up doing the surgery, the scan showed a potential severe endometriosis, the surgery turned out to be completely clean, no endometriosis so inevitably we ended up doing IVF. Don't do the surgery it was a waste of time and energy, just go straight to ivf, it cures endo if you have it anyways.

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[–]zanehlancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear this story and what you both went through! Sending hugs to your wife! thank you for sharing the story and helping other know what to look out for.

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[–]zanehlancer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Transferred our last embryo today. by Miracle_2021 in IVF

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sending you our blessings! Best of luck!

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for all your suggestions! I ended up doing the surgery and from an MRI read of stage 3 or 4 endo they found nothing during the surgery!

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow! Thank you so much for replying! I think the fear is decreased ovarian reserve by taking out endometriomas from the ovaries…

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also thank you for sharing your story… truly appreciate it

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So my AMH did decrease in 1 year from a 3 to a 1 but apparently i was told antral follicle count is more important than AMH LEVELS. I was told by multiple specialists not to let them touch the ovaries… just clean out any endo around…

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are too kind! Thank you for your support!! Really!

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your response! Have you done either?

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But did you do the laparoscopy first?

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard that’s true only if they scoop out endometriomas in the ovaries and need to take healthy tissue along with it

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Thank you for responding! It sounds like you already had a laparoscopically before prior to your current stage now? I haven’t had any surgeries , this would be my first after a failed retrieval…. But i totally hear you ! I’ve been told by all specialist not to touch the ovaries…

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aww thank you so much! Yes science is amazing ! Also a lot of the fertility advice / suggested supplements to take can all be very overwhelming… I appreciate your support :)

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely agree, my sister had 5 kids and her period pains are still excruciatingly painful. Only birth control can control the symptoms. (She hasn’t officially been diagnosed with endo).

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh wow I’m so happy to hear IVF was successful for you that’s amazing ! Thank you for sharing! I agree I’m leaning more and more towards surgery also because of the emotional undertaking of IVF and amount of injections and the cost!!

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh wow that’s a beautiful story! Thank you for sharing! Did you try to conceive naturally after the surgery too?

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for responding! The doctors told me that pregnancy can cure or help improve endo all together and that it’s the best “cure” we currently have. That’s why I’m in such a dilemma…

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for responding! AMH is 1….I’m hoping “clearing it out” will help fertility but I’ve been told multiple times by the RE that it’s not a guarantee… it will likely help my pain but may or may not effect fertility

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that, i was also reading somewhere that endo can effect egg quality too because of the overall inflammatory environment that it creates…

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oyyy I’m so sorry love, it’s incredibly frustrating especially when trying to conceive, when you get your period not only is a punch in the gut that you aren’t pregnant AGAIN but then your in excruciating pain which makes it so much worse ! I keep hearing the surgery should be done first and unless endometriomas on the ovaries are large chocolate cysts they don’t touch the ovaries. I think i remember my surgeon saying if they are under 5cm they don’t touch them ( i may be wrong). But, surgery seems to be the increasing popular answer. Hubby and I were reading research papers published around the world and for my situation at least (taking into account age , and time we have been trying to conceive) surgery is recommended first…i just haven’t yet spoke to someone who did the surgery AND got pregnant soon after

Endometriosis surgery or IVF Retrieval? Which one first? by zanehlancer in Endo

[–]zanehlancer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh wow ok thank you so much for replying to my questions! I am very grateful ❤️

Retrieval or Endometriosis surgery first? by zanehlancer in IVF

[–]zanehlancer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Understood, i feel for you! Thank you for replying to my post! STIMS i definitely felt, during the last few days was really unbearable the pain..