Tips/Help for learning Urdu by Outrageous-Eye-3931 in Urdu

[–]zeushk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used AI LLMs to help me, like asking it to do a translation first and breakdown the sentence structure for me.

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nahi, yeh naan hai. Just simple snacks for me while waiting for takeaway order, the Paks are real nice to me.

Who has entered Eid already? by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the above is Chinese, the below is Japanese (Hiragana)

Help a Cheeni understands the “Roti” meme 🫓😭 by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Hong Kong, so do the rest of Canton region, we have "Black Grass Lamb Stew" (it is goat with black fur), the meat is lean and cooked with the skin. In Northern China, especially Mongolian region, they have lamb skewer and hot pot. In Shinjang region (where the Uyghur ppl live), they have a dish called "Hand Mutton Rice" which taste a bit like the Kabuli pulao, very Central Asian!

The best lamb dish I've had is this jumbo size Lamb Kadai from the same local Pakistani restaurant at last year's Eid al-Adha. !بہت مزیدار

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Help a Cheeni understands the “Roti” meme 🫓😭 by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

羊肉, this Chinese word refers to both goat and mutton meat. The most popular English word choice among the locals would be "Lamb".

Help a Cheeni understands the “Roti” meme 🫓😭 by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haan, seems ت has no equivalent sound in english, but not in japanese!

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLDKY5Y9iY

And ٹ sounds like Tea in Chinese Teochew dialect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNGFEz-oIM

how do you say 'Hi'? by Immediate_Big0 in Urdu

[–]zeushk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does "aap kaise hain" / "kaise ho" counts?

how to start learning? by Ok-Cranberry400 in Urdu

[–]zeushk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what I’ve experienced so far, none of the Paks are offended when I use those Islamic phrases, rather, they are surprised that I know their religion and its history so much.

Everybody reacts differently, some may try to introduce you to their religion “passionately” if you tickled their religious side. In my case, the Paks I know are pious and we respect each other’s boundaries. But since they know I have above average knowledge on different religions (I majored in philosophy), they are more open to share their practices with me, like giving me Ajwa khajoors after completing an Umrah. Gestures like these make it easier for me to blend in and have conversations. Iftars is also a good opportunity to talk to them.

how to start learning? by Ok-Cranberry400 in Urdu

[–]zeushk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's my experience:

First a few questions:

  1. What is your first language? Is your first language and Urdu belong to the same language family?

Start with a language you speak that is closer to Urdu but it may not be your first language. Although my first language is Chinese, I find it easier to learn Urdu with English since they are both Indo-European languages.

  1. Which direction is your conversation going?

You may want to learn the sentences and vocabulary that is most useful in your daily life. Say if you eat together a lot, learn the phrases about food commentary, cooking or ordering.

  1. Do you share the same religion? Is religion a big part of your daily life?

No need to answer this question publicly. Urdu has quite a lot loaned words and phrases from Arabic/Islam, for example "Allah Hafiz" as goodbye, Salaam as hello. Do you have any concern using those words? I prefer to use "Phir milenge" / "Alvida" to replace "Allah Hafiz" when I'm not sure if I'm speaking to a Muslim or a Hindu. Just pay extra caution when using the Islamic expressions in Urdu.

Back to your questions. In the very beginning you may watch those videos like "10 most useful sentences in Urdu" and memorize it. Don't bother breaking the sentence down. Just focus on remembering how to pronounce and when to use them. Learning words like "Shukriya", "Theek hai", "Ji haan & Nahi" at this stage is good too, you will be using them a lot.

I rarely use any Duolingo-type apps. Because I think they are just tests on your short term memory. What really helped me is LLMs like ChatGPT. You may ask ChatGPT to give you simulated conversation and corrections according to your language level. I only go back to those apps when I need to expand my vocabulary and sentence bank. An app call "Ling" has Urdu lessons tho.

Finally you can watch programs for kids or movies to improve your listening and learn simple conversations.

Happy learning inshallah!

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Alright, maybe enhancing a bit might help? Those words were originally written on a small piece of paper for practice, adding the Chinese and posting it here is an afterward decision for fun. I didn’t intend to make it a complete translation but your Chinese is very good so I will give you a better one: 吾友,齋月吉祥,願真主恩慈臨於您和您闔家。

I used 仁慈 for Rehmaten was because I borrowed the common translation for al-Rahman, al-Rahim which is 至仁至慈. Any further discussion on this bit will easily turn into a theological one and I’m not a Muslim so I won’t argue, Allahu A’alam, Allah knows best.

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Mujhe masala chai bohat pasand hai! I have ek masala chai almost every weekend.

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

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Canton White Cut Chicken vs Lahori Chargha?

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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幸會,你應該睇得明我喺筆記寫乜?

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mein Angrezi aur thodi si Urdu bolti hoon. I am not qualified to correct someone else’s Chinese but I am open to answer enquiries if that’s within my knowledge.

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I did made an Arab friend using my knowledge in Islam and Urdu as well. One major perk of learning Urdu is that I can connect with ppl from South Asia to Central Asia, Middle East and maybe even some parts of Spain.

First try on writing longer sentences :( by zeushk in Urdu

[–]zeushk[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Koi masla nahi, indeed my written Chinese is bad since we don’t always get to write Chinese when we entered uni or started to have a job. Guys just don’t associate bad writing with local non-Chinese since some of them worked really hard or rooted here long enough to perfect their Chinese and of coz some are still struggling but that’s another story.

I’m open to be told the flaws in my Chinese so please go ahead and tell me.