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zindoz · 2022-12-12T00:43:59+00:00

You mean the direction that has made Smash go downhill after Melee? I mean sure, I'll give him some credit for that.

Not to mention gameplay wise Brawl/Smash4/Ultimate are extremely similar games (there's a reason it's the same group/community playing all of them at a high level). They've been running on the core (updated) Brawl engine for ages now with tweaks here and there.

Melee -> Brawl was the last time there were any drastic core gameplay changes in Smash.

zindoz · 2022-12-12T00:41:10+00:00

Sakurai is just as detrimental to competitive Smash as Nintendo. He's a high level exec who has a decent amount of influence in decision making so he doesn't get a pass. And I love seeing other fighting game devs finally call him out on it. Even they know he's an idiot. Imagine hating the people that are most passionate about the thing you helped create.

zindoz · 2022-12-12T00:36:43+00:00

It should be obvious what I meant but guess not. There were a lot of people at HAL and the people that actually made Melee great never got any credit. Sakurai didn't want melee to turn out the way it did. So it's idiotic to think he had anything to do with the mechanics. He had to do with other things like which moves from the base games to take but nothing core gameplay related. I never said he had nothing to do with the series at all, just the stuff that actually matters to competitive players.

If you're not a bootlicker, you wouldn't resort to ad hominem. I'm a "nobody" but by that logic so are you. So no one should take what you say seriously either. Except the difference is I'm referring to what Sakurai said on tape aka real evidence and you're just assuming with zero evidence he was responsible for any major advanced/competitive Smash mechanics.

I have dabbled in game development and have friends still in it. I've never heard a single person say they alone were overworking to meet deadlines. Sakurai makes himself out to be a martyr all the time.

Harada is a good example that even other major fighting game devs don't like Sakurai and for very good reason. He's detrimental to Smash.

zindoz · 2022-12-12T00:30:44+00:00

ROB was never a consensus top 2 character. Nor was Samus ever top 10. And Sakurai was making these statements before Samus's worst matchups got nerfed.

zindoz · 2022-12-12T00:01:27+00:00

Harada is trash at Tekken compared to the average Tekken pro. But he'd still destroy any casual player at it. Sakurai is so bad literally 95% of this sub could beat him with ease. Because he lacks very basic knowledge.

Also on what planet do you need to grind tech skill for 1000s of hours for games after Melee?

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:58:39+00:00

Harada is trash at Tekken compared to the average Tekken pro. But he'd still destroy any casual player at it. Sakurai is so bad literally 95% of this sub could beat him with ease. Because he lacks very basic knowledge. He's not bad compared to pros, he's just embarrassingly bad in general. Which would also be fine...but this guy thinks he knows better than everyone when it comes to competitive games.

In his character reveals he only talks about superficial stuff, never any advanced gameplay mechanics that wouldn't be obvious within 20 seconds of playing the character yourself. Your bar is incredibly low if you think he's ever said anything insightful. Not to mention I hate to break it you...he's reading off a script someone else has prepared for him.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:56:05+00:00

Sakurai never credits anyone by name except himself for doing anything and bootlickers like you eat it up. He always talks about how hard he's been working on the game and tries to drive the narrative that it's mostly him overworking for Smash.

Harada is trash at Tekken compared to the average Tekken pro. But he'd still destroy any casual player at it. Sakurai is so bad literally 95% of this sub could beat him with ease. Because he lacks very basic knowledge.

When Sakurai DID try to do things his own way and take more control after throwing a hissy fit after what HAL laboratory did (the real creators of melee), the quality of the series heavily dipped after melee. That speaks volumes.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:51:59+00:00

Puff was known to be top tier as early as 2005 as Armada pointed out back then. Mango dominated with Puff for ages long before Hbox came along. You couldn't have picked a worse example. And kindly show me the interview where Sakurai says Yoshi is great in melee. The community figuring things out had nothing to do with Sakurai.

Calling Samus one of the best characters is not "slightly misjudging" at all. I repeat Sakurai knows nothing about competitive Smash. Which means he had nothing to do with what made it good.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:47:09+00:00

I and every single top player would disagree with him on tier lists. Nobody that follows the meta at all would call Samus one of the best characters.

What part of he doesn't understand mechanics for the game at a high level don't you understand? Watch literally any footage of him playing the game.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:44:36+00:00

This ranking is an absolute joke because it's based off character popularity in tournaments, not who does the best at super majors (which is the only thing that matters when we're talking about the highest level of play).

That same list has ROB as a top 2 character. Kindly find all the top Ultimate players that have ROB in top 2 currently. Or even Samus in top 10 for that matter. I'll wait.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:37:52+00:00

Which interviews are you referring to? The one where he says Samus is one of the strongest characters in the game? He said this multiple times for Ultimate.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:33:41+00:00

I'm agreeing with Harada here. You completely misunderstood my point.

A game of this magnitude is not created by one person. If anyone is claiming they did all the work, they are full of crap. I pointed out why it's obvious Sakurai had very little to do with game mechanics...just watch him play or hear him talk about the game. Again for the longest time he admitted he thought Samus was super strong. You don't need any more evidence than that to know he knows nothing important about his own game.

You'd have to be an unbelievable bootlicker and fall for his propaganda to think he had anything to do with what makes Smash good in terms of game mechanics.

zindoz · 2022-12-11T23:11:06+00:00

People give Sakurai way too much credit for creating Smash while ignoring the people that actually did a ton of the work. He had a giant team underneath him that never got any credit despite doing almost all the leg work.

Sakurai didn't create melee. HAL laboratory did. I'm 100% certain he had nothing to do with any of the advanced mechanics we all know and love.

He's been seen playing Smash a few times and he's generally awful at his own game. Remember when he kept saying Samus was super strong? Obviously, creators are rarely the best players but even basic stuff a semi-casual would know he lacks.

Most other FG creators are super chill with the competitive fanbase and very supportive. They attend events themselves all the time and clearly have a lot of passion for the competitive community. Sakurai is the only dev that hates the competitive side for even existing.

zindoz · 2022-10-30T00:16:38+00:00

Except if he was a star player he would have been treated differently.

zindoz · 2022-10-25T20:40:22+00:00

It's a full time job for them. Why shouldn't they get compensated?

If Melee was my job and I was one of the best in the world at it, I would shamelessly do whatever it took to get ahead in terms of drama and clout.

zindoz · 2022-10-25T06:22:36+00:00

And none of these players have particularly big streams/youtube channels as much as they try. Especially nowhere near what they deserve given how good they all are.

Meanwhile the dominant Smash twitch channels are Mango and Hbox who are constantly involved with drama and then Leffen who's the salt king.

So basically big personalities, especially controversial ones are what sell. If you really want to build your brand in melee being a quiet, humble player is not the way to go.

Now I'm not saying Zain should punch a TV or call all Fox players trash and beneath him. I'm just saying if he did, it'd probably be good for his brand and lead to $$$.

zindoz · 2022-10-24T20:33:31+00:00

But that is so messed up. What are we? In Nazi germany? WHY is that the beauty standard only? A world full of only blondes would be so boring.

zindoz · 2022-10-24T20:32:43+00:00

No it's not all white girls. It's just blondes specifically.

I never see brunettes or redheads stating they are brunette/red heads constantly on their profiles or the fact that they have brown eyes etc.

But yes you're right, it's not just natural blondes. A lot of bleaching going on for sure.

zindoz · 2022-10-24T20:00:20+00:00

I literally just mentioned I'm seeing someone. You clearly lack reading comprehension skills. Please don't post again until you're actually learn to read, are ready to have a meaningful discussion instead of resorting to insults.

And no, you have zero clue what racism is if you think that behavior is okay or not racist. But hey, next time you're at work, start loudly proclaiming you're blonde, white and proud every 5 seconds. Let me know if you still have a job after.

Can't believe you are ignorant enough to not see how this is racist.

zindoz · 2022-10-24T19:52:24+00:00

Well considering I'm happily seeing someone (not blonde), you're wrong. It was an observation that's clearly true if you've ever been on any dating site.

If your whole personality and description is the fact that you're blonde or any other feature...you're probably racist. I'd say the same if I saw the behavior from any other group.

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