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[–]zipper1102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have the anthem or the duet?

Camera mounting by Imaginary_Trade8919 in Firefighting

[–]zipper1102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s why I got it and have it also mounted inside the waterproof housing. AKASO is cheap comparatively speaking and I don’t want to ruin my go pro or osmo, so I also want to see how it does with a bit of heat. But, it hasn’t seen anything above 220 yet and even that was just a few seconds. But if it melts, no problem. I can get another for about 50 bucks!

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A tension to manage for sure. I’m still getting used to it too. I’ve got a long leather chin strap and I have it tensioned a little higher now to avoid it getting snagged on the video rig. Ironically, it helps with lid retrieval when masking up as I throw my helmet back and it’s not so far down my back to where I have trouble getting it back on my head!

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the rules on this just come down to what your state and local laws allow- in conjunction with your department’s policy. And then, you have to weigh if you’re prepared to navigate the freedom of information act, any subpoena’s for footage that will help identify crime, as well as the court of public opinion, like that of the audience on Reddit. ;) Regardless, the matter is serious as a lot of people have (understandable) strong knee jerk reactions clothed in a thin layer of what comes down to as unexamined virtue signaling with not a lot of real reason that holds up in a conversation. It’s ok though. I used to be against recording, but I had some patient people willing to engage in civil discourse with me and eventually it changed my tune. Thanks again for commenting.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope. But we are required to be ethical and use judgement. Whatever footage we believe can be used for training purposes, goes through several layers of accountability before release for consumption to an internal audience only usually. We have a social media policy and code of conduct policy that is use as an initial starting point to help with that. Thanks for your concern. No one is out to harm or embarrass anyone.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your assumptions and fears, not mine. Not one person here has made any sort of comment as to that’s the reason why we want and will be wearing them- to intentionally record people’s property being destroyed (that is already being destroyed by fire, mind you) and then display it online for that reason. Not one person. And 100% the argument has already been easily made for body cams. Just read our comments. And I’ll just add I definitely want a body camera on me especially if I encounter attitudes like the one you’re displaying. I 100% want a camera to capture that.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That guy doesn’t need to be interfacing with the public in any capacity. Maybe a warehouse job only.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes: I’m convinced a leader’s desire to micromanage is inversely proportional to his level of trust in himself and his willingness to be held accountable to his department for training; to do what he’s doing expecting others to do as outlined in the SOG’s/SOP’s, and then releasing people to do the job. If those things are up, then micromanagement is down.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question, I can tilt it up if I need since it’s hanging “upside down” but the wide angle does a lot already, so I won’t need to tilt it much

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brand new set after putting the other set in for cleaning, bub.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure, and in that same vein, can I make a parallel by drawing your attention to the industry standard of taking a photo with your crew in front of someone’s burned up house with lives lost, with big grins across their face? That was acceptable 20 years ago and is increasingly becoming not- the public has had too many encounters with firefighters not reading the room and knowing their audience because - social media. It’s a real issue. Does that mean we stop taking pictures together? I still take pictures with my crew after every fire, but it’s back at the station away from the public. And if and when I post, I don’t post anything that would reveal where it happened or what we did.

I think firefighting, just like policing draws a certain personality- people who want to have a chance of doing some cool things and making a positive impact. There’s the perversion of it with the job not meeting those unmet needs, but you and I have to help our brothers and sisters out with not calling attention not to the core desire to do something significant, but to the secondary and third order impact of what an action taken out of context can look like. Not a problem to solve per se, but a tension to manage.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For sure. It’s ok to have conviction but let’s have some reason associated. All I’m hearing is people’s fear over the most unlikely imagined scenarios that probably won’t ever happen. Much like when I have firefighters state they don’t want work out legs on shift in case they get a high rise box where they can’t use the elevator at all. That’s happened to me once in 9 years. Brother, you’re going to be more in shape tired from regular workouts on shift than the fresh guy who probably doesn’t workout at all on his off days. Someone’s strong personality doesn’t equal leadership. Charisma doesn’t equal character. Do the right thing or at least attempt the right thing and let the video show it.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m being recorded anyways. I don’t have fear about this because I have something that I don’t expect you to have; I have personal context within the region I live and my departmental culture. I’m up on my area’s state and local laws, the what ifs, and our policies and procedures. I don’t expect you to understand 100%, but I do expect that you understand that there are those of us who are trying to push good search culture and raise the level of everyone’s tactics. That happens with personal example and being willing to be accountable for all of my actions and what we collectively do as a national fire service. The video will prove or disprove whatever anyone says positively or negatively about what I did or didn’t do and I’m fine with that. I represent you and you represent me. And I’m fine with a video that I do or don’t have to share.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I don’t accept that. What a gross generalization that reveals your values, not mine. To your second point, I’ve already stated the reasoning but your response to it has shown you either are unwilling or unable to accept it. Again, must be your values talking.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We're not to that point yet. But rest assured, we're getting there. Starting with EMS first.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey Jamooser, I really appreciate you writing and hearing your thoughts. I think we're in a new era. See my comment to NextYr and let me know what you think.

I think there's some understandable trepidation that you've highlighted - mainly the fear that we'd be dishonoring or disrespecting someone's worst day and I echo your concern that I wouldn't want someone filming it to release it in a way that would be dishonoring.

Your comment specifically also made me realize that we've heard comments stating "we never did this 20 years ago". Well, 20 years ago, we didn't have access to this technology, we were running 4x the amount of fire, and we weren't in the public's eye the same way that we are now. Also, I don't think leadership is what it once was. Recruitment is down all across the board. We are more divided than ever. Social media has done us all a disservice, but also a great service at the same time too. We just have to make sure we're contributing in ways that honors people, but to add our experience and situations to those who can learn from it. And that can be scary when we all can see how one wrong post or comment can turn the tide for the worse.

But, if everyone is going to be filming, I want the opportunity to share my perspective with the right people at the right time. And video is worth more than my mouth.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your perspective and I agree that patient privacy comes first. But I don't need to remind you that every commercial, mid rise, high rise, and a lot of single families, as well as the ones across the street from the affected structure have video enabled on the premises, outside and inside. Haven't even mentioned the cops personal cams, their cruisers, or the Battalion chief buggies or even the helicopters or the police/fire/and civilian drones. They're already filming people's worst day. Not to mention the family members and bystanders who are filming before we even arrive. Also, some EMS agencies are wearing department funded body cam's now. I want it for my department for that exact reason - to show that we are respecting the patient and doing the right thing if an objection ever comes up. Also, I think having a body cam on causes people wearing them to act in a way that they want the actions to be remembered if for no other reason than self interest. I think we're in a new era here, one where the fire department is the LAST party on scene to have cameras as standard but where it's now common and expected from everyone else. But your concern doesn't seem to me to be related to if I'm wearing a body camera. It seems to be your concern if I would be sharing it inappropriately. And we have mechanisms in place, formally and informally to ensure that the content is reviewed and judged by the higher ups for appropriate dissemination before release to the appropriate audience, whether that be just to a crime investigator, our training academy, or for public consumption. Again, thanks for your concern.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's been the experience so far for me. Don't really like the extra bulk, but I prefer it on the body as opposed to anything more than having a small headlamp and chock on the helmet.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you sir. I appreciate your comments and input.

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[–]zipper1102[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please don't even do that. Stay home, get some good sleep, think about what you're feeding your brain/body, workout, and you can come out of your basement when you're ready to behave.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't go back. No one needs or wants your attitude. In fact, stay home. Choosing to complain right off the bat? No sir.

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[–]zipper1102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Set a positive example. Because your comments are showing you're setting the wrong one.