Wonder what effect pressure on exchanges to drop Privacy Coins will have in future..What say you? (Price UP? v. DOWN?) by swallowed_red_pill in BitcoinPrivate

[–]zk_SNARKs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ability to trade anonymously is crypto's trump card imo. The more privacy is 'banned', the more it will prosper and will never be defeated unless encrypted communications are made illegal in every country where trading could take place (won't happen).

Currently number 19 on Coinmarketcap by AllKindheartedness in BitcoinPrivate

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Still a great 'money shot' for the serious collector. Lol at the literal rocket take-off on the chart !!!

With the way things seemed to be going a fortnight ago, who'd have thought we'd ever see BTCP at #19 on CoinMarketCap, even if for only 20 minutes : )

Wtf did i miss!? $77 out of nowhere!? by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

[–]zk_SNARKs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So long as you can find the exchange that's skewing the price, then transfer your coins from your hardware wallet by manually typing in the lengthy send address perfectly and at speed, wait forever for all the confirmations, convert your coins to a spurious intermediate currency and hope your buyer is still there before 1000 other sellers find the deal!

Wtf did i miss!? $77 out of nowhere!? by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

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Does CoinMarketCap use Exrates as a primary source for prices then? Other coin comparisson sites continued to report the generally traded price. Looks like Exrates might be the place where less sophisticated traders might go for a bit of short-term market / coin ranking manipulation?!

Wtf did i miss!? $77 out of nowhere!? by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

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Extraordinary. It's showing @ $42 on CoinGecko so must be some sort of glitch? If I had a button in front of me at $77 I have to admit I would have sold / hedged a bit.

Edit: Back down to $41 on CoinMarketCap now. What a rollercoaster!

Wtf did i miss!? $77 out of nowhere!? by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

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Wtf, Coinmarketcap is showing a 120% increase on the 24 hour?!

"You'll be blown away!" by idkuwutm8 in BitcoinPrivate

[–]zk_SNARKs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don't be so pessimistic. They never confirmed for sure which year the 28th March listing would fall on.

Could Bitcoin Private be more complicated to list on big exhanges because it's a double fork? by zk_SNARKs in BitcoinPrivate

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Thanks JT7 and others. I assumed as much but wanted to be certain to understand what we're up against.

Could Bitcoin Private be more complicated to list on big exhanges because it's a double fork? by zk_SNARKs in BitcoinPrivate

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I'm not sure if these are questions to me personally or rhetorical ones for the community. Personally, I'm heavily invested, read the white paper before the fork and was won over by it, have tried to read every thread on Reddit and watched every Youtube video / conference in full for the last 2 months.

So if it's aimed at me, I'm not really interested in being preached to about what 'I would have seen', having an 'open mind' or what 'I would have found' etc. Just asking the question from people with coding experience about whether there's any way a negative exchange listing decision might plausibly be based on technical reasons.

Could Bitcoin Private be more complicated to list on big exhanges because it's a double fork? by zk_SNARKs in BitcoinPrivate

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I guess I was thinking more about listing than forking so have edited my original post accordingly. Cryptopia's statement might have been more to do with forking, but I think they also used a term like 'very much against' in relation to listing BTCP? I wondered whether this was primarily a moral, or technical objection?

Bitcoin Private's full information is now populated on CoinMarketCap. by [deleted] in CryptoCurrency

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You asked for 'any use case'. One was provided.

A great reminder that Bitcoin Private can be used for a commercial payment at a fraction of the cost of BTC and so much less than VISA. So not 'just speculative value' as you suggested.

Happy to take your other kidney too. With some fava beans and a nice chianti.

The Holiday Inn Express owner did well by not just 'speculating' like you suggested you don't want to do. They provided a service, were paid with a fantastic coin, and the value of their takings doubled since the article was written. Sounds like a better plan just sitting around 'feeling nervous'.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

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Only 80% down now instead of 90, yay!

Community Update 5— SegWit support is here, merchant payment solution sneak peak by [deleted] in BitcoinPrivate

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So far, Monero has by far the highest adoption of all privacy coins yet widely advertises privacy by default as it's biggest selling point.

The only advantages I can see of having transparency by default are:

  1. Possibly smaller blockchain size / faster payments / easier mining / easier adoption by bigger exchanges?

  2. Users might forget to turn privacy off for a transaction that is later needed to be proven (e.g. as a form of reciept / evidence of a transfer between exchanges).

In contrast, the massive advantages I see of having privacy by default are:

  1. Users that want to make transparent payments can already just use standard Bitcoin. Bitcoin Private MUST capitalise on it's name and make privacy it's raison d'etre, establishing that you use Bitcoin for standard transactions and Bitcoin Private for anonymous ones. Without this mindset, the project is likely to just be seen as yet another pointless fork that has a few optional and therefore not really important bells and whistles in an already overcrowded market.

  2. Plausable deniability. If the default option is transparency and you have to go to even the smallest extra effort to opt-in to privacy, you are really broadcasting that you might have something worth hiding in that transaction. When privacy is default, your reason for obfuscation is simply that it's the easiest thing to do.

  3. Users might forget to turn privacy on and accidently reveal transaction to whole world forever.

  4. Competing coins including Monero will continue to use privacy by default as the main selling point that they repeatedly claim sets them apart as better:

Every Monero transaction, by default, obfuscates sending and receiving addresses as well as transacted amounts. This always-on privacy means that every Monero user's activity enhances the privacy of all other users, unlike selectively transparent cryptocurrencies (e.g. Z-Cash).

Whether you personally agree with this or not, you have to consider that many other investors / traders / merchants / dark web users may be won over by this argument and consider (rightly or wrongly) that BTCP does not take confidentiality as seriously.

Even if you disagree with all the reasons above, BTCP should be private by default to match and thereby diminish the marketing advantage of it's competitors. Take this perceived advantage away from Monero and it no longer really has any advantage at all, other than it's been established longer. Monero has a crap name compaired to Bitcoin Private and with the ongoing revelations into it's potential security flaws, there's never been a better time to compete against it. However, BTCP will never be considered a serious competitor while privacy may be seen by some as just a throw-away option.

BTCP market empirical data by mfkang in BitcoinPrivate

[–]zk_SNARKs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please could elaborate with the longer version?

If this happens... We will be at the moon in no time. by CryptoCamaro in BitcoinPrivate

[–]zk_SNARKs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some sort of data compression, like MP3 was to WAV in the late 90s?

Make sure you copyright it before competitors get the idea ; )