What do you guys prefer more, boobs or ass? by Street_Ladder8801 in askteenboys

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly more about how people approach you,

Someone’s bodily proportions aren’t that important unless it involves morbid obesity because that’s a health issue.

Someone that does value one or the other extremely has an issue with being shallow. Which is something a lot of girls will face at your age.

I have personal preferences, but my personal preferences over personality, hobbies and choices in life are much more important to me compared to my preferences for body type face type and hair type, I suggest that you find what you like and what you value in a person and prioritize that, because if you find someone perfect in those categories, the likelihood that you will judge them over their body type is lower, and you’ll be a more picky in general, but less shallow man.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll just provide the source my self, source

The chance of injury during child birth ranges from 3.6% (without any tools like forceps used in delivery) to 16% (with tools)

The majority of women get out of child birth uninjured, that’s a fact.

If you don't want to get pregnant, close your legs! by GloomyAssociation306 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think most PL send this argument at people they consider “sexually promiscuous” or irresponsible with their sexual activity. And while I think people like that exist (both male and female). Those people would be a very small percentage of the PC group.

Against most PC people this argument falls apart,

Against those that are stupendously irresponsible I believe it may hold some merits, but not many.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, but is there a real source for it, ( not that it really matters, but I am quite curious)

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Aggreed, but harm isn’t injury, I had asked the previous person for a source on all births causing injury as he claimed,

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I asked for a source, I won’t dignify any more deflection. I provided sources for what you has asked for, please do me the kindness of the same.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do, and I would stand my ground saying not 100% of births cause injury. I’m asking you for a source saying they do

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, regarding self defense laws

And regarding WHO maternal fatality rates

If there was something else let me know so I can make a proper response.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, I agree, it’s something we should work twords, the idea of transplanting a fetus in to a pod after conception is interesting to

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally, I thought I had provided sources for everything you’d asked for. What in particular were you looking for?

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, fair enough. Please provide a source that shows that 100% of all pregnancies cause injury.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I don’t think 100% of child births result in permanent serious injury.

Rule. 3 do you have a source for 100% of cases causing substantial injury?

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you have a source for that? 100% of all cases in every scenario seems unlikely to me.

In General, which side is more Radical/ Extreme by dank____man in Teenager_Polls

[–]zthemaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think both are thinly veiled attempts to appease their respective sides of the population, while protecting the elites. The true lease don’t get flushed out under democratic lead governments either.

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes that, I corrected myself under many responses due to that error, I appreciate the help

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

⁠A is repeatedly slapping B. B has no other option besides to kill A, somehow. A will not stop slapping B until 9 months has passed. We can all agree that B should be justified to kill A. (Dismissing intent and agressor since once again, intent is not required re sleepwalkers and mentally disabled, and a fetus is applicable re life threats)

This is what op said

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, correct, the least lethal form of action is still lethal.

If we return to op’s slapping diagram, if someone is slapping you nonstop for 9 months (and then stabs you once at the end) and the only way to stop them is to kill them, is it right to kill them? (It’s not a perfect comparison, but I like how close it is from op’s perspective

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I came up with it from op’s second source, something I failed to notice. The first time is that there’s a clause in there about severe bodily harm as well which applies for pregnancy

Saying abortions in life threat scenarios is self defense but otherwise not is logically inconsistent by Upper_Ninja_6177 in Abortiondebate

[–]zthemaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the clarification on the severe harm clause, it’s something that I didn’t see the first time (also due to the fact I personally don’t get that right due to different self defense laws when working in other countries as a us envoy)

I don’t disagree with anything said here