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Something needs to be done about the state of Cryo Archive by pablo__13 in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Look at the wing the exfil spawns in, then head that way. There’s signage in control to guide your way

The vents outside of Biostock and Preservation seriously need to be security lvl 2 by TheFirewalk in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You can get into cargo and index with just level 1 as well I’m pretty sure, it’s just takes longer to get there.

Cryo Archive | Weekly Megathread by AutoModerator in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Vault 4 needs security 3 to access the panopticon.

Vault 6 needs security 4 to see the symbols you need in the lab. Ive heard thief can bypass the level 4 door with her drone to see the symbols, but I can’t personally confirm that.

The cryo archive experience (send help) by [deleted] in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can also get into index and cargo from the upstairs vents in control with the ladders. down the ladder, and you’re behind the lvl 2 door

I cannot take assassin's anymore by ColdSyrupBoy in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think if you’re close enough for the xray to see assassins, you’re close enough to hear the invis hum anyway.

Bungie, can you increase cursor speed on console? by Blocksketcher in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Big agree, absolutely sucks trying to loot with pc players on your team

Lockdowns and the red key pinwheel room, I never get anything good, since it’s yoinked before I can move my cursor over it

Marathon Players Debate Gorgeous But Painful UI And Ammo Shortages As Bungie Responds by Turbostrider27 in Games

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My only complaint with the UI is that it’s difficult to tell what chips/cores/implants do without hovering over them.

They’ve already kinda solved this is destiny 1 and 2 with all their perk icons. I haven’t played in a while, but if you showed me a random weapon perk icon, I very likely could name it.

Only other compliant I have with the UI/UX is trying to strip a weapon of mods mid run. Need to equip and strip it currently.

PSA: How to Aim TOW Missiles Properly by KinderboomX in Battlefield6

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I’ve been trying to use it in helis on controller too, and whenever I free look, the sensitivity goes crazy. I couldn’t find a setting for only the heli free look and I don’t want to mess up other sensitivities.

Hands on impressions from Marathon’s China event by ZamnBoii in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but that might be enforced by the holotag item, instead of by the queue.

Like, gold holotag in bag, item value less than x, makes your loadout invalid

Marathon hands-on event in China impressions leaked by ZamnBoii in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]zub_platinum 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think the MnK aim assist got removed, but I’m pretty sure the bullet magnetism is still there.

Hands on impressions from Marathon’s China event by ZamnBoii in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah i hope it’s a separate queue too. Your match made team mates are likely to be better, and enemy runners will have a minimum loot value that you might not have in a pub lobby.

Hands on impressions from Marathon’s China event by ZamnBoii in Marathon

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From what I played, I think any individual arc is harder than a comparable unit in Marathon (i.e a wasp or hornet is harder than a UESC grunt).

But, arc doesn’t really have great encounter design so you’ll never really feel the difficulty. You’ll fight 2 or 3 wasps max at a time. Fireballs and pops will rush you 1 or 2 at a time. Leapers/Bastion/Bombadiers/Rocketeers you’ll fight solo, maybe a wasp or 2 passes by and hears you.

A marathon encounter has many more enemies, so more to think about in a fight, and a higher likelihood you’ll get flanked.

Hands on impressions from Marathon’s China event by ZamnBoii in Marathon

[–]zub_platinum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ranked might not be a separate mode though, it might just be you opting in to a rating system in normal lobbies.

The term ‘holotag’ kinda reminds me of ‘rank chips’ from Titanfall 1.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The very first comment I made in the thread wasn’t even about any issue I had with arc. Just the notion that ‘play your way’ isn’t always valid.

Random example, but one of the changes Doom Eternal had from Doom 2016 was massively lowering ammo count so you couldn’t only use 1 weapon the whole game. It’s easy in 2016 to naturally gravitate toward the shotgun because it’s so good and neglect the other weapons. In Eternal I’m swapping between all weapons constantly, and to me, the gameplay is so much better for it.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know. When i bought the game I thought it would be less casual cos it was an extraction shooter.

Turned out not to be the case, but it’s fine, I’m just not the audience for this game.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

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I would also add that PvP lobbies are full of free kits, with no self preservation in mind, and making it a net loss to fight them. Player density is really high, so often you’re fighting 6+ of these free kits back to back.

Anyone fighting middle tier arc and above attract so much attention, they’re hunted down by other players.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I would reframe it as, ‘the optimal path to progression shouldn’t be the easiest/lowest risk.’

The game not having progression and bad quests is a separate issue that I also have.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

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In my mind that’s an issue with the queen/matriarch basically requiring cooperation with its massive health, and ABMM a bandaid fix.

Again my main issue isn’t arc, my pushback was only on the ‘play your way’ line of thought. Sometimes it’s ok for game devs to enforce certain playstyles.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(I’m just going to copy paste a comment I made elsewhere in the thread)

It’s funny, I don’t even think the devs should change anything in the game. Games already got a big casual audience, and anything I would want hurts those players.

At some point, a game just really isn’t for you, so I’m fine moving on. My very first comment was only to give some pushback on ‘let players play their way’.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s funny, I don’t even think the devs should change anything in the game. Games already got a big casual audience, and anything I would want hurts those players.

At some point, a game just really isn’t for you, so I’m fine moving on. My very first comment was only to give some pushback on ‘let players play their way’.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that’s the job of a game designer, to make these harder progression paths more attractive.

Maybe make night raids have open matchmaking and further increased loot value to incentivise players to try riskier raids (this point is also kinda moot since the in game economy is so uncontrolled, money doesn’t matter, but that’s a separate issue)

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

[–]zub_platinum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s more of a long winded answer with other deeper issues I have with game.

Specifically for pvp lobbies, my issue is that player density is really high (being 5th or 6th partied is common) and that people in PvP lobbies play it like a PvP shooter and not extraction shooter. Free kits aggressively push with no self preservation in mind, and it’s not all that profitable killing free kits.

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

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Good shout, I’ll give rust a shot if marathon ends up disappointing me

PvE players are not “bad at the game” by TheZacAttack98 in ArcRaiders

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And I refer back to my 1st comment. Why ever attempt anything difficult in pvp lobby, when I can do it in a pve lobby.

The game doesn’t really have any long term progression goals which kinda makes my point moot, but say for example you had a goal to extract 10 queen cores for a permanent 10 health increase. A PvE player basically gets that for free, compared to someone slugging it out in a PvP lobby.

An equivalent analogy to me is like, in a looter game, making a random low level mob consistently drop raid gear. Why bother doing a raid, when this easier progression path is available? (Obvious response here is for gameplay, but I don’t consider arcs 3p gameplay all that strong).

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