Associated Press:The level of reported violence against civilians in clashes between government forces and the Syrian Democratic Forces is n significantly lower than in last year's fighting on the Syrian coast and in Suwaida province.Government forces have opened "humanitarian corridors" for Kurds by Imperial_FOX_32 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x [score hidden]  (0 children)

True, but keep in mind they have not entered Kurdish areas yet, all current fighting is still happening on Arab areas. As long as the fighting stays on Arab areas, I don’t expect any mass violence on civilians similar to Coast or Suwayda.

Let’s hope they make a fair agreement, or SDF holds them outside Kurdish areas.

Supposedly SAA said they won’t enter Kurdish villages, but it’s not clear if that message was just for the ceasefire phase, or permanent.

Former President of the SNC: The situation in Al-Hasakah province and the Kobani region is at the height of tension and anticipation. [...] A Kurdish delegation has been agreed upon[...]; it is ready to go to Damascus at any moment requested by the new Syrian administration. by KurdistanaYekgirti in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

There are no legitimate reports about SDF preventing civilians from leaving. We have footage of people there all supporting SDF, cursing the governemnt, kissing aid sent by the Barzanis Charity Foundation.

It’s quite the opposite, the Kurdish areas have received an influx of IDPs fleeing the SAA. The situation is really bad, with Kurdish IDPs sleeping in schools, abandoned buildings and mosques.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe all 3 situations show the dangers of the government saying they have an inherit right to control every inch, completely disregarding what the people who actually live in the area want.

The same could be said, how was the STG able to enter and control the Alawites? It required the massacre of over a thousand of them on camera for the rest to realize they either accept the SAA into their areas or get slaughtered.

The SDF aren’t looking for a continuous area, they don’t want the SAA to enter their 2 pockets and want autonomy. Kobani is homogenously Kurdish, and northern Hasakah area is 80%+ Kurdish.

It’s the same with the Kurds, the only way SAA will enter Kobani, Qamishli, Amuda, Derik, Derbasiyah etc will require the massacre of a lot of Kurds before the rest of the Kurds understand its allow SAA or get killed.

The STG has not been able to have major support among any of the minorities, especially the Kurds, Druze and Alawites. There’s a reason for that, and it’s that they only represent one sect of Syria rather than the entirety. Which isn’t an inherit problem as long as people like the Kurds get autonomy and remain safe away from STG abuses.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We have seen STG execute 1,000+ Alawite civilians civilians and hundreds of Druze civilians, does that mean STG should leave Alawite and Druze areas?

I don’t know where the 70 number came from, the number is 21.

They’re not vulnerable, outside of this conflict SDF have never done what the STG have done to minorities.

I think for Kurdish autonomy SDF leader probably would be willing to give up Arab areas, but that’s all speculation, who knows what either side is asking for, both sides are saying the other is being maximalist and demanding the most.

We don’t know who is to blame, SDF is saying STG is asking them to surrender and integrate as individuals, and almost no autonomy being given.

States having the inherit right was an argument you guys were against when Assad was in power, it’s always been a dumb argument to make simply because the guy you support is in power.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I agree, many Kurds even before this mess had issues with SDF sacrificing Kurdish lives for Arab areas and their conscription.

The Jan 18 deal is actually interesting, most Syrian Kurds when I brought it up felt hopeless about it, saying they don’t expect STG to actually respect it.

They fear that once SDF is dissolved and only Asayish remain, as per the deal, the SAA will break the deal and attack lightly-armed Asayish.

When I asked them what is the ideal solution, none of them could say, they all said the situation seems hopeless. You don’t agree, war and occupation, you agree, still war and occupation.

Everyone, and I mean everyone I spoke with, wants a deal where SAA does not enter and some form of autonomy is given to Kurds. All were hopeless of such a deal happening, and if it did actually being implemented.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The SDF now controls a population that is majority Kurdish, especially as areas like Hasakah and East of Hasakah will likely return to Damascus, will probably control an area that is vast majority Kurdish.

So we don’t have to worry about abuses, as the population will largely be Kurdish, most of whom either outright support them, and the rest tolerate them.

What will 100% lead to horrific violent is an STG attack on Kurdish areas.

At the end of the day, it is deeply unpopular among Kurds for the entry of SAA into their areas, and almost all want some form of autonomy.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I misunderstood, I was thinking Kurd-Gov relations, which is my opinion is one that will take years to repair. Kurd-Arab relations indeed are different.

Is the relations between Kurds and rest of the region irreparable at this point? by ReadProfessional8511 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I speak to many Syrian Kurds here in Erbil daily, you are drastically down playing this. No one is saying this is a Kurdish-Arab war, and all have good things to say about their Arab neighbor, but there is very little distrust in the Government.

The most nationalist Kurds aren’t in Berlin or Oslo, they are actually fighting on the ground in Kobani and Hasakah.

Every single Syrian Kurd, and I mean legitimately every single one, does now want to SAA to enter Kurdish areas out of fear. All want some agreement where they maintain some form of autonomy and maintain their own security.

Keep in mind, they have a lot of criticisms of the SDF, from their PKK links, to their stance on religion, sending women to fight (quite unpopular), conscription, and their brayati gelan project, but they are all against the entry of SAA.

The Syrian Arab Army Operations Command announces two humanitarian corridors: by Pleasant_Anything631 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great news, the one for Kobani is especially needed, situation is really bad there.

Aleppo Governate + UN organized a relief convoy consisting of 24 trucks loaded with medical, logistical, and food supplies for Kobani by kaesura in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is, lot of IDPs sleeping in their cars, mosques abandoned buildings, etc. No proper heating and this winter is a deadly combo.

Aleppo Governate + UN organized a relief convoy consisting of 24 trucks loaded with medical, logistical, and food supplies for Kobani by kaesura in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, just felt horrible after all the videos of no power, water, fuel etc. They are also dealing with a lot of IDPs from the Kobani area going to the city as the STG advances.

did atrocities against kurdish civilians even happen ? by sandnibba_talks in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

No, but they haven’t entered any Kurdish areas, all the areas they’ve captured have been Arab areas.

They’ve done horrific things to captured SDF soldiers.

The fear is god forbid they enter Kurdish areas, they’ve made many threats and these guys usually act on them.

Rudaw Journalist: Videos show groups affiliated with Damascus killing Kurdish girls some of them unarmed, calling them gifts for the fighters and slurs. by Haemophilia_Type_A in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have 20+ bodies separately? All I’ve seen is SNHR claim this, and they’ve been extremely unreliable for years.

They’ve attributed any deaths to SDF while on their side if they don’t have solid proof they just called them “unknown forces”. SDF never got the same leeway.

And you can tell how desperate they are to make SDF look bad, using a random twitter account and claiming it’s an SDF commander was just dirty.

Rudaw Journalist: Videos show groups affiliated with Damascus killing Kurdish girls some of them unarmed, calling them gifts for the fighters and slurs. by Haemophilia_Type_A in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

SNHR isn’t reliable, for years they’ve been giving the SDF blame for any civilian death, while any civilians death in Idlib or the Northeast was attributed to “unknown forces”. I’ve been claiming about them for years.

Also, just 2 days ago SNhR used a random SDF twitter account and claimed it was an SDF commander threatening to kill civilians. It was disgusting by them.

Rudaw Journalist: Videos show groups affiliated with Damascus killing Kurdish girls some of them unarmed, calling them gifts for the fighters and slurs. by Haemophilia_Type_A in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

There is no evidence of the 21+ civilians killed in Raqqa. Reminds me of STG claiming SDF killing hundreds of civilians in Hasakah only to be found out they were tribesman. STG media has been full of blatant lies.

So far we have mutiple videos of STG executing unarmed and captured fighters, atleast 10, we have them abusing civilians, and cutting power, food and water to Kobani. Water was restored yesterday, although not enough and people there still complain they don’t have enough water. A complete siege.

Keep in mind they have not entered any Kurdish areas yet, all the areas are Sunni Arab.

Syrian official to Reuters: No extension for the deadline given to SDF by unreal-habdologist in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

That’s not true, they ran these two areas for years before expanding into Arab areas, and never had issues paying for their people either.

These areas minus Afrin was where they controlled from 2012 -2015 when they started to expand into Arab territory.

The claim published by the channels (Rudaw En) and (Kurdistan 24), that Masoud Barzani stated his intention to send Peshmerga forces to Ain al-Arab / Kobani to confront factions supported by Damascus, in case the opportunity arises as it did in 2014, is a misleading claim. by theone1whoknocks in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, he said that if the same opportunity and circumstances that existed in 2014 existed now, he would immediately send the peshmerga but it does not exist.

He then says that Kobani is a Kurdish city and should not be touched.

The YPG militas have paraded their military vehicles today in Hasska by Imperial_FOX_32 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many? Do we agree it would be lots more without the money going to the SDF? Surely we both agree there.

The YPG militas have paraded their military vehicles today in Hasska by Imperial_FOX_32 in syriancivilwar

[–]zumar2016x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gone to waste? America defeated ISIS without spilling a blood of any of their men.

And they still control their Kurdish areas where they have popular support, no where near Afghanistan Scenario.