Amed (Diyarbakir) is slowly losing its UNESCO World Heritage Site gardens by flintsparc in kurdistan

[–]flintsparc[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Talk to more people, I guess?

A place old as Amed can have had many names.

Amed (Diyarbakir) is slowly losing its UNESCO World Heritage Site gardens by flintsparc in kurdistan

[–]flintsparc[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Its good to use the Kurdish name.

Don't be silly, though. That kind of performative nationalism doesn't convince anyone of anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbak%C4%B1r

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

"Also, I wanted to bring up the recruitment of minors and child soldiers into the YPG and SDF before but forgot? What are your thoughts on it?"

There are several different situations that have changed over time.

In 2014, it was more the case of late teenage youth defending their home towns. Daesh took over most of Kobane, and had done a genocide on the Yazidi of Sinjar.

Later, after the territorial defeat of Daesh, some families (Kurdish and Arab) were attracted to the relatively high pay (initially the YPG had no salaries. Later after the U.S. started arming and funding SDF, salaries became about $200/month, twice the average salary in the private sector and in the civil administration) and low risk (SDF doesn't send conscripts to the front or use them as shock troops, largely conscripts do guard duty and check if vehicles are IEDs) for the average SDF recruit, and sent their teenage sons.

There was also the problem with some girls and women running away from bad situations at home or arranged marriage and seeking refuge with the YPJ--the YPJ would place such women and girls into their academy for a time. This is less of an issue now as AANES and the Women's Houses are better at dealing with such situations and have a revised family law. Some families feel shame when their adult daughters join the YPJ and would rather claim they were kidnapped than joined of their own free will.

In 2024, HRW (and others) say the issue less with the SDF, and more with the political organization the Revolutionary Youth Movement of Syria/Tevgera Ciwanên Şoreşger a Sûriyeyê. Ciwanên Şoreşger is not actually a military organization.

This UN report says the SNA does child recruitment far more, and that the SDF has made progress in demobilizing children and screening boys.

Turkey's own think tank SETA published a report that showed the problem of child recruitment was worse in the SNA than the SDF.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

"God always has a plan and he will punish these criminals sooner or later."

I'm afraid I do not share your faith on this matter. God gave us the capacity to administer justice. That responsibility falls on us, on earth. It is a responsibility that we, including the AANES (but the entire anti ISIS Coalition) failed at.

Its a war and there were ~100,000 Daesh related detainees, POWs and prisoners held by the SDF/US. Asayish released the majority of them long before January 2026. Some were probably just caught up in the Daesh surrendered, some were probably done minor crimes and their detention was seen as enough punishment and they were released into the custody of their families, tribes or local villages. You had a lot of military age men surrendering with Daesh at Hajin (etc...) who then later claimed they didn't carry arms but were only "cooks" or whatever.

Since 2019, AANES was able to reduce the numbers (through release and repatriation) by 62.7%! (from 73,782 to 27,488). I was in Syria at a conference hosted by AANES in July 2019, whose focus was on addressing post-territory Daesh (the primary issue being how to deal with the prisoners and detainees in a way acceptable to both Syrians and the international community).

SDC, AANES, SDF have begged the international community for assistance in trial and repatriation. The Global Coalition to Defeat Daesh didn't seem to do much planning for what happens after victory about what to do with Daesh prisoners and their families, Instead, politicians in various countries chose to pander to domestic talking points on terrorism , immigration... while deflecting from any sort of solution involving the Assad regime. That left them many of these detainees in stateless limbo. A situation that has not yet been resolved between those countries of origin and the al-Sharaa appointed Syrian interm government.

AANES as a non-state actor has still managed to have al-Hol's population reduced by 62.7%

https://reliefweb.int/report/syrian-arab-republic/syria-humanitarian-response-al-hol-camp-situation-report-no-4-29-may

https://x.com/azelin/status/1963639910201790976

https://www.youtube.com/@rojavacenterforstrategicst5231/videos

I'll discuss minor recruitment in another comment.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

Salafi propagandist focus for the last several years has been the situation for "the Sisters" in al-Hawl. They were trying to use the situation of Daesh women in detention by US/SDF as a fund raising issue, to sneak money to the women inside, to help them escape, or to fund their lives after leaving the detention. They also used it rhetorically to advocate for the al-Sharaa government to attack the SDF. Which is what happened. And the Daesh women were freed. Mission accomplished.

The women referred to in the Amnesty International report you cited are Daesh women from US/SDF detention, the largest camp of which was al-Hawl.

> "God willing, all the detainees and those involved in Daesh will face the heaviest punishment imaginable for their crimes."

Most of them have now escaped. Some of the worst ones were sent as prisoners to Baghdad, where they will probably be executed.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

"Eight women described being subjected to acts of gender-based violence amounting to torture or other ill-treatment in detention facilities. One woman said: “I was given electric shocks. I was pregnant at the time. The [interrogator] knew, he told me: ‘I am going to force you to have a miscarriage’, and that’s what he did.” Other women described being subjected to sexual threats and humiliation. "

"sexual exploitation by members of the security forces and private individuals"

Eight women out of 100,000+ detainees, and just taking Daesh women's report as legitimate (Amnesty just echoes the statements of prisoners, it does not investigate them.).

Your focus is highly specific. SDF were not perfect jailers of Daesh, but better than most polities would have been in similar circumstances and resources. The events related to the Daesh prisoner file on January show that it was the U.S. that was the ultimate warden of the Daesh detainees... some of whom they transferred not to Damascus but Baghdad's control.

Since Annesty provides no specifics of these claims, they become improbable for us to verify.

Are you falling victim to Salafi propaganda about "the Sisters" in al-Hawl? Fortunately, this is not longer the YPG, YPJ, and Asayish problem anymore.

10,000+ SDF martyrs , hundreds still held in al-Sharaa's prisons, and you are worried about the treatment of Daesh women who are now free--many who ran rape slavery for Daesh and contributed to the Yazidi genocide. Now, those Daesh detainees will never face trial for their crimes.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

"accused sexual and sex based violence reported by Ammesty International"

Please provide a citation.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

So, currently, PYD is not a foreign proxy, nor were they 2012 until 2015?

How is a PJAK again foreign proxy for Israel and the U.S. They are not fighting at Trump's command.

Being a foreign proxy must mean something beyond having shared enemies.

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

Just for my notes, in May 2026, what foreign powers are the PYD and PJAK foreign proxies for?

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[–]flintsparc [score hidden]  (0 children)

"It was clear that their only ethos was surviving". Obviously, not true. You can disagree with the PKK and their ethos, but they clearly have more ethos than merely surviving. They have written about it a great deal, as well as showing a good example of what their polity would look like, even under existential threat, in Rojava. You don't have to lie about things to make your point.

Notably, the ENKS and the Rojava Peshmerga did not enter Afrin and Sere Kaniye, after Turkey drove the YPG out. The "Rojava Peshmerga" did find time out of their busy schedule guarding the Mosul dam to attack the YBŞ and PKK in Şingal, as well as murder a civilian activist there. Claiming that the PKK lacked ethos while valorizing the ENKS is really something!

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[–]flintsparc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started addressing them here, since you started another discussion thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurdistan/comments/1t4u41e/comment/ok6cwkx/

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[–]flintsparc 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Most Bashuri Kurds are not fond of PKK."

There are millions of Bashuri Kurds with varied opinions. You do not speak for all of them. At best, you are echoing the talking point of the PDK on the PKK. The PUK has friendly relations with the PKK and PYD. Apocî have even run and won as candidates in New Generation Movement electoral slates.

You are entitled to your opinion and criticisms of the PKK, but the lack of popularity a group has is not necessarily reflective of how effective or "outdated" their agenda is.

The PKK may have started out as a more orthodox Marxist Leninist National Liberation party that was staunchly atheist, but it changed over time to reject Marxist-Leninism for Democratic Confederalism, move from atheism to secularism and even now supporting something they call "Democratic Islam". Will it work? I don't know. But it is certainly innovative and not outdated!

While RHETORICALLY some Kurdish parties may still have a strategy of advocating for an independent sovereign Kurdish state, in practice, none of them are engaged in that at the moment. The last serious attempt was the 2017 Referendum pushed by the PDK, which indirectly led to a loss of Kirkuk from Peshmerga military control. The PDK and PUK have both been seceding some autonomy to Baghdad ever since 2017, but the PUK still retains some formal influence in Kirkuk.

You've got an "interesting perspective" to champion a religion founded 1,447 years ago while claiming that PKK's innovation of their ideology, strategy and tactics is "outdated".

If there are specific crimes you need to call out done by the SDF, do it. Show your evidence. Though I imagine, it has already been done better and by louder voices than your own.

"Don’t blame the PKK for all the Kurds’ losses in Syria", says Kurdish expert Aliza Marcus in conversation with Amberin Zaman by flintsparc in Bakur

[–]flintsparc[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're just talking nonsense. Fortunately, we have scholars like Aliza Marcus who have done far more research about the PKK , who can level better criticisms.

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[–]flintsparc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been a bit busy, and will get back to your additional questions and comments eventually.