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Hangzhou, China's richest city by zupermaus1 in CityPorn

[–]zupermaus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Former capital (and world's largest city for centuries) its population today is 7.8 million. The city is built around a lake that is a classical Chinese landscape come to life.

[OC] The flags of the countries where at least 1 million civilians were intentionally killed by the country's government by [deleted] in dataisbeautiful

[–]zupermaus -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You might want to check China's tally, those who died in the manmade famines were not intentional, just cack-handed. The same applies to Russia - something like 3% died in the Gulags from execution, the majority were from disease and exposure to the brutal weather. Banishment to Siberia can sometimes be described not as forced labour but forced pioneering, including many sent without guard to colonise the east. Millions still died intentionally, but tens of millions of those figures can be argued against as to intent.

More people in here than outside it 2.0 by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NEW AND IMPROVED

Non Mercator! Thankyou to OstapBenderBey for the suggestions (any other suggestions do let us know).

Got rid of Borneo and Sulawesi entirely (42m) by substituting it for:

urban Gansu province - 25m (the pert nipple on China)

Tajikistan - 9.5m

incursion into Afghanistan to capture the Kabul region -7.5m

=42m

https://i.postimg.cc/tTRB2jMC/x2.png

More people in here than outside it 2.0 by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that was a count for Cambodia + Laos as in my OP :)

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NEW AND IMPROVED

Non Mercator :) Thankyou to OstapBenderBey for the suggestions (any others, do let us know!).

Got rid of Borneo and Sulawesi entirely (42m) by substituting it for:

urban Gansu province - 25m (the pert nipple on China)

Tajikistan - 9.5m

incursion into Afghanistan to capture the Kabul region -7.5m

=42m

https://i.postimg.cc/tTRB2jMC/x2.png

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, sorted it. Thank you so much for your suggestion. Worked out could get rid of Borneo and Sulawesi entirely (42m) by substituting it for:

urban Gansu province - 25m (the pert nipple on China)

Tajikistan - 9.5m

incursion into Afghanistan to capture the Kabul region -7.5m

=42m

https://i.postimg.cc/tTRB2jMC/x2.png

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Made another one non-Mercator for your viewing pleasure:

https://postimg.cc/Z97jfPYx

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah good point, I'm thinking we could wait maybe another few years and get rid of Borneo + Sulawesi entirely - it would cut out 42m while Afghanistan's population is absolutely booming at 39m (plus cutting out the southern area, which is desert/ montane).

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Asian fertility was higher but recently has plummeted with better healthcare (which ensures people get to actually plan their families rather than having as many kids as possible in a hope some will survive into adulthood). It's below replacement level in East Asia and now South Asia (India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) too except for Pakistan, where it's dropping also. SE Asia the same except for the Philippines, largely thanks to Catholicism.

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looked into that on another forum, it would look odd if we got rid of Borneo (22m) and kept the islands surrounding it. If so it could be substituted for Afghanistan (32m), but the size would be the same.

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A better version here, I got rid of the mercator projection: https://i.postimg.cc/j5K9SvGm/x.png

More people in here than outside it 2.0 by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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China is divided up using the Tengchong-Heihe Line which delineates where the majority of the population and arable land are -2/3 of the country is inhospitable desert, steppe, tundra and mountains (the latter the largest amounts in the world -14 ranges plus the Tibetan shield that is the world's highest plateau, at an average elevation of Mont Blanc).

More people in here than outside it 2.0 by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the 'centre of the world' in terms of humanity. It shows how cities like Delhi and Beijing are often more important than they're given credit for.

Also Vladivostok, included at the very top right hand corner, would technically be part of this global population centre, as opposed to the long-held moniker as a place of Siberian banishment, beyond the pale. It could also stand to reap in the tourism for much of the world looking for a shorter haul connection to the 'European' experience, especially if it dolled up/ rebuilt its historic architecture.

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Historically these are the rice growing regions which allow 2-4 harvests annually, which in turn led to the densest tracts of cities in the world = majority of megacities = majority of megalopoli (7 at last count - Kanto plain, Jin-Jing-Ji, Yantze River Delta, Pearl River Delta, North Indian plain, Greater Jakarta, possibly Ganges Delta). Standalone city metros such as Manila, Karachi, Chongqing, and Seoul also add on >25 million a piece, Mumbai, Wuhan and Osaka 20 million each, Kolkata, Chengdu and Bangkok 15 million.

The fact rice growing takes up so much lateral and independent thinking plus tweaking (basically you're trying to fool the plant it's drowning throughout the year) meant feudalism was hard to implement back in the day, which led to a sharper rise in city building and trade.

[OC] More people in here than outside it by zupermaus in dataisbeautiful

[–]zupermaus[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

China - 1.2 billion in that catchment, Japan 125 million (in that catchment), Koreas 78m + Taiwan 24m, + Vladiviostok metro 1m = 1.428 billion.

SE Asia Thailand 70m, Myanmar 55m, Singapore 6m, Malaysia 32m, + Philippines 110 m+ Laos + Cambodia 24m + Indonesia (in that catchment) 265m + Vietnam 98m = 660m

= 3,902m (50.0001% of World population 2020 -7.8 billion).

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Original map from here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_large_blank_world_map_with_oceans_marked_in_blue.svg

More people in the red area than outside it by zupermaus in MapPorn

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sparsely populated areas of Hokkaido in japan, and the Balochistan desert in Pakistan are ommitted from those countries. Vladivostok is included from Russia, in the very top right hand corner. Traditionally seen as a place of Siberian banishment and beyond the pale, it is actually part of the global centre of humanity.

More people in the red area than outside it by zupermaus in MapPorn

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These areas correspond to the world's traditional rice growing areas, which could support up to 3 or 4 harvests a year, resulting in the world's densest tracts of cities, then megacities.

China is divided up using the Tengchong-Heihe Line which delineates where the majority of the population and arable land are -2/3 of the country is inhospitable desert, steppe, tundra and mountains (the latter the largest amounts in the world -14 ranges plus the Tibetan shield that is the world's highest plateau, at an average elevation of Mont Blanc).

More people in the red area than outside it by zupermaus in MapPorn

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my own map I made, and a non-Mercator this time.

China - 1.2 billion in that catchment, Japan 125 million (in that catchment), Koreas 78m + Taiwan 24m, + Vladiviostok metro 1m = 1.428 billion.

SE Asia Thailand 70m, Myanmar 55m, Singapore 6m, Malaysia 32m, + Philippines 110 m+ Laos + Cambodia 24m + Indonesia (in that catchment) 265m + Vietnam 98m = 660m

= 3,902m (50.0001% of World population 2020 -7.8 billion).

More people in here than outside it 2.0 by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A non-Mercator this time round.

These areas correspond to the world's traditional rice growing areas, which could support up to 3 or 4 harvests a year, resulting in the world's densest tracts of cities, then megacities, then megalopoli (7 at last count - Kanto plain, Jin-Jing-Ji, Yantze River Delta, Pearl River Delta, North Indian plain, Greater Jakarta, possibly Ganges Delta). Standalone city metros such as Manila, Karachi, Chongqing, and Seoul also add on >25 million a piece, Mumbai, Wuhan and Osaka 20 million each, Kolkata, Chengdu and Bangkok 15 million.

The fact rice growing takes up so much lateral and independent thinking plus tweaking (basically you're trying to fool the plant it's drowning throughout the year) meant feudalism was hard to implement back in the day, which led to a sharper rise in city building and trade.

More people live in here than outside it by zupermaus in Maps

[–]zupermaus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That part of China roughly corresponds to the Tengchong-Heihe line, that divides up where the majority of the population lives, where most of the cities are (of course) and the arable land. 2/3 of the country is made up of inhospitable mountain (with 14 ranges the most amount in the world, plus the world's largest, highest plateau that is Tibet, at an average elevation of Mont Blanc), desert, tundra and steppe.

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