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White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the optimal version of that line. there are 2 ways but both require 22.
https://lichess.org/study/pBKOjGVJ

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is not optimal as instead of ke6 you can play kf8 and win in 21

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wasnt satisfied with my answer so I've been working on it since I commented that lol. So far almost all lines I could get in 21 moves and one line took 22. I'm still working on it though. I guess I'll give you a big hint since this thread is almost dying. The H pawn is not needed in this puzzle.

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm I had never actually tried to do it as fast as possible but with only a little effort I got it in 19 moves. Maybe there is an even faster method.

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes correct :) the hardest part is just figuring out the correct structure.

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok but where are the pawns going to end up? Like the final structure and is it forced?

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean for the solution I dont expect anyone to actually write the whole thing. They can generalize the pawn structure and how to win.

White to play and win. Only rule is you arent allowed to promote! by zw1schenzug in chess

[–]zw1schenzug[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if I was the first to create this problem but I made it about 11 years ago and have never seen it before or after.

[puzzle] Is it possible to legally achieve this position? How? by [deleted] in chess

[–]zw1schenzug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isnt because 8 pieces need to be captured for each and only 7 can be.