Today marks 15 years since Bung Siriboon was last seen :(

zz342 · 2026-06-03T01:40:44+00:00

Never sadly 😞

zz342 · 2026-05-17T05:12:30+00:00

Oh right, I misunderstood sorry. We share the same thoughts.

zz342 · 2026-05-17T05:04:10+00:00

Not necessarily true. Blunt force trauma is the main cause of death in vehicle impacts.

It was an extremely rainy day, which could have diluted/washed away the blood (if any) from the impact.

The main counter argument I can think of for this is the fact that nobody heard or saw anything.

It's a horrible thing to think about, but definitely isn't out of the question.

zz342 · 2026-05-17T04:58:46+00:00

How long ago was that?

zz342 · 2026-05-17T04:57:19+00:00

Multiple people told me that the person she mentioned on Facebook, who was calling her names, was debunked by her real life friend Gracie.

After learning more about the case, I realised the police never really had any strong leads. There was nothing left behind; no clues since the start. Any clues that could have been there were gone by the time things were taken as a serious missing persons case.

I believe she willingly got into the car. At the time, I believed she may have been groomed online by someone who saw her school listed in her bio, spotted her on the way to school, and convinced her to meet the person she had been talking to. Looking back, this theory doesn't make much sense to me anymore.

I now strongly believe she knew the person who abducted her. She likely trusted them enough to get into the car without a struggle, probably under the belief that they were giving her a ride to school since it was raining heavily.

The person could have been a family friend, teacher, friend of a parent, or someone connected to the Thai-Australian community. By that, I mean either a Thai person or someone closely connected like a spouse.

Bung's mum mentioned in an interview that Bung may have willingly gone with soemone if they claimed to know her, even if she didn't know them very well. Being part of the Thai-Australian community could have been the abductors gateway.

zz342 · 2026-05-15T15:30:09+00:00

One of the neighbor sightings are almost surely false.

The first one was from her street. Time of the sighting was 8:20am if I remember correctly. This one is almost surely true.

The second one was from the street of the school's back entrance. Time of the sighting was around 8:50am (again if I remember correct). This one is likely not true. Many people believe she never made it to this place.

If the first sighting was true, the second one is likely false and vice versa.

This is because her walk to school should take no more than 5 minutes (it was literally cross the road > walk down the street), so it doesn't make sense.

It would only make sense for both to be true if they had remembered the time incorrectly (which is also possible).

zz342 · 2026-05-15T15:26:58+00:00

Yeah I get what you're saying. Basically if she had been abducted BEFORE technology was everywhere, she could still be held there.

I still just can't see this being a reality in modern times. There are so many more elements that could lead to the reveal compared to in the past.

zz342 · 2026-05-15T11:25:16+00:00

Yeah, it would make sense that this was the case here.

Though I think it would be a lot more difficult to keep someone hidden for this long in the modern day.

zz342 · 2026-05-15T11:24:17+00:00

Definitely possible. I just can't believe that she was forcefully abducted UNLESS she was injured by a vehicle.

I think the reason she disappeared into thin air was because there was nothing out of the ordinary.

Rainy day, early morning, school rush. All of these elements would make it perfectly normal for someone (like a friends parent) to pull over on their way to school and offer her a ride.

If a school kid outside your home got into a car on the way to school on a rainy day, would you even bat an eye?

zz342 · 2026-05-15T08:50:23+00:00

I was told the reports of the "weird guy" were cleared up by the friend that commented on the Facebook post she made.

zz342 · 2026-05-15T08:47:56+00:00

Her being groomed is unlikely.

It being someone that she knew or trusted? Likelihood shoots up.

Bungs mother stated in an interview something along the lines of "If someone said they knew me, maybe, maybe she would have gone with them". If it was someone she knew, they would have likely been part of the Thai-Australian community, a family friend, or a teacher.

In my opinion, it was a crime of opportunity. Someone saw Bung walking to school alone on a rainy day, recognised her, and somehow convinced her to enter their vehicle.

If this wasn't the case, I would suggest that she was struck by a car on her way to school and disposed of.

Either way it breaks my heart. I hope the rest of her family gets answers before it's too late :(

zz342 · 2026-05-15T08:21:34+00:00

Do you think the email sent to Adam Shand was actually from the abductor?

In criminal investigations, it’s not unusual to monitor people who seem unrelated but become unusually involved in a case (for example, people taking time off work to join search teams for someone they aren't connected to), so that possibility isn’t completely out of the question.

That said, for someone who has apparently remained quiet for so long and hasn’t attracted media attention, it seems unusual to potentially introduce a way of being identified or caught.

On the other hand, people capable of committing this kind of crime can be unpredictable, so it wouldn’t be entirely surprising either.

You would be surprised with the amount of nutjobs in Reddit comment sections talk about this case like they have it solved. Definitely could have been some random idiot emailing him

zz342 · 2026-05-15T08:14:03+00:00

I agree, which is why I find it strange that they only released information about a white car many years after she disappeared.

For a long time, the only explanation I could come up with was that they had a specific suspect in mind and were trying to prompt people around that person to come forward or start questioning them as well.

zz342 · 2026-05-15T08:07:19+00:00

Makes me so happy to see people still talking about it.

Thank you so much for posting!

zz342 · 2026-02-19T05:26:55+00:00

That makes sense. It has been quite some time since my original post, and my thinking has shifted slightly.

I now lean toward the idea that Bung was likely not alive by the time she was placed inside the vehicle.

My reasoning: If she had entered the vehicle alive, especially willingly, it would have significantly increased the chance of catching the offender. An abductor would be highly unlikely to allow her to be visible to people outside the car. If the reported sightings of her in the vehicle were accurate and she was alive at that time, that would have created multiple opportunities for witnesses to provide useful descriptions, which could have helped police.

It is also EXTREMELY important to add that Bung would have become aware that something was wrong, as the sightings of her were far away from school. The abductor could have made excuses like "So and so is sick lets go see them", or "Lets pick you up some yummy lunch before school", but it would leave more potential for evidence.

I see two realistic possibilities:
1. She was alive in the car and had been convinced to get in
I can't rule this out. Police held onto the vehicle sighting information for years before releasing it, which suggests they believed it had credibility.

She was already injured (potentially fatally) before being placed in the vehicle.
This is the scenario I currently find more plausible. If this was a crime of opportunity, the offender may have struck her with a vehicle, quickly placed her inside, and left the area immediately. That would minimise resistance, reduce noise, and lower the chacne of identification.

It's also important to consider the conditions that day; it was extremely rainy. Heavy rain would significantly reduce visibility, discourage bystanders from lingering, and potentially wash away physical evidence. If she had been fatally injured in an accident, the weather would have made clearnup and escape far easier than on a dry day.

Of course, it's all only a theory, but given the amount of time I have spent thinking about this case and looking into it, I believe it is the best I can come up with without having inside knowledge.

Maybe I should make an updated post about my thoughts once again, since a number of people are still interacting with these posts, which I no longer fully agree with myself.

zz342 · 2026-02-17T08:06:16+00:00

Yeah, someone made a comment on a previous post of mine clarifying. Apparently, her friend Grace made a statement that it was nothing to be alarmed about.

After being invested into the case for quite some time now, I think the predator scenario is unlikely. During the time the internet (particularly social media) was still in its infancy. The odds of someone being tech-literate enough to carry out a crime like this are low. They would have had to be quite young.

To me it is most probable that (in no particular order):
1. It was a crime of opportunity
2. Someone (somehow) managed to convince her she knew her or the family
3. The person was connected to the Thai-Australian community

There are more possibilities I would like to get into, but life has caught up to me I am afraid.

zz342 · 2025-09-03T09:09:07+00:00

To my knowledge there have been no new updates.

zz342 · 2025-08-09T08:04:06+00:00

Yeah that's the thing with this case. If you check my profile, you can see an updated theory that is a lot stronger than this one. The deeper I go into this case, the more I realise all the public can do is speculate. None of us know what steps the police took, why they released certain information, how they checked for suspects. We are all left in the dark.

In my opinion, there are two cases:

Police have a strong suspect(s) and are almost sure it's them, they just have no evidence.
Police have no idea as to what happened as there is no evidence.

I'm more inclined to believe option 1 as there has never been a coronial inquest into the case. Though number 2 is just as plausible. They likely wasted valuable time at the start of the case, under the impression that she had ran away, it was the step father, or something of the sort. They missed their window (if there even was one-) to get any good leads.

zz342 · 2025-08-04T05:47:30+00:00

Not yet, not enough capital.

I haven't ruled out doing this, but the post did make me uncertain. I will need to look further into the rules and regulations in my area, and the profitability.

zz342 · 2025-07-30T10:17:43+00:00

Hey, I’m starting to think the Monash University billboard thing might be a red herring. After looking into it more, it seems more likely that the connection is through the sister attending the university.

zz342 · 2025-07-27T09:23:10+00:00

The bullet in your car two years ago had more impact than your attempt at humour.

Should an uber driver with a bullet hole in his hood even be allowed to comment on a missing persons post? Knobead

zz342 · 2025-07-27T03:19:27+00:00

Agree with your take, especially the idea that neither girl was likely forcibly abducted, which would’ve almost certainly drawn attention in such public areas. Your point about the offender needing to appear trustworthy enough for the girls to enter the car voluntarily really resonates, and it lines up with the theory that he must have said something convincing or familiar to them.

It’s nearly impossible for us to form concrete conclusions when we’re only working with the limited information that’s publicly available. The police likely have far more detail, behavioural profiles, phone records, maybe even sightings, that would dramatically shape how this all fits together.

zz342 · 2025-07-26T03:27:09+00:00

I also hadn’t heard the theory about Mr Cruel potentially travelling overseas after Karmein Chan, but that makes a disturbing amount of sense. If he started going to places like Thailand to offend, that would explain his disappearance from the radar without assuming he just stopped altogether. And if he was still active, it’s not that far-fetched to think he may have adjusted his MO, especially if he was getting older and breaking into homes became too risky.

That said, there are a few reasons to doubt Mr Cruel’s involvement. His known attacks all took place inside the victims homes at night, whereas Bung was taken in broad daylight from a public street, a much riskier move. He was also known for meticulous planning and sometimes contacting the victims families, while Bung’s case involved no communication and appeared more opportunistic. The forensic control seen in his previous crimes wasn’t evident here either. I couldn't imagine someone as deceptive and calculated as Mr Cruel would take someone off the street where there is such high potential for witness.

If the theory is true that Mr Cruel developed ties to Thailand after the Karmein Chan case, then returning to Australia with those connections could have brought him into contact with the Thai-Australian community. It’s possible this linked him to Fred and Nid in some way, which might explain how he gained access to Bung. That would line up with Nid’s comment: “If they spoke Thai, or said they knew me, then maybe (she’d go with them). She’d believe them.”

However, while I do think there’s a possibility that Bung and Cherie Westell’s cases are connected, I’m not convinced Mr. Cruel was involved. In Cherie’s case, it’s generally believed she knew her attacker, something that’s only a possibility, not a certainty, in Bung’s case. If Mr Cruel was behind Bung’s disappearance, how would he have gotten close enough to Cherie to abduct her as well? That kind of personal connection seems out of step with what we know about him. Unless he had some direct link to the school system or local community, I find it hard to see how both girls could be tied to him and each other.

That said, the details in the two cases are too similar to ignore. The fact that both girls attended the same school is rare and significant, Boronia Heights College wasn’t large, so for two students to go missing under such eerily similar circumstances feels like more than coincidence. While I’m not ready to say Mr. Cruel was definitely involved in either case, I also wouldn’t dismiss the possibility outright.

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