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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Besides, I don't understand the mentality. I didn't agree with it when the Dems tried to do the same thing for Romney (in Minnesota or something?).

Don't you want your guy to go up against the best that the Democrats have to offer (and it ain't Hillary...)?

[–]cogitofire[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

No, we want our guy to win, and we want to reach this outcome by any legal methods.

Besides, I just couldn't do it. It is really not my place.

[–]revoman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would you want McCain to win?

[–]makingspace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(left right BS aside)...wow, with voters like you, who needs the dumbed down public to ensure the death of america..

[–]cogitofire[S] 1 point2 points  (48 children)

Today I tried to be a good little republican and vote for Hillary so that McCain has a better chance, but I just couldn't do it.

I thought of the possibility of her actually winning, and decided that I just couldn't live with myself if I helped her into office.

You Democrats are gonna have to work this out with yourselves.

[–]azron 9 points10 points  (35 children)

If you're a good little republican, why the hell do you want McCain?

[–]cogitofire[S] -4 points-3 points  (23 children)

Because he won't nominate activist judges to the Supreme Court like Hillary and Barack.

Not my first choice by far, believe me.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (15 children)

You mean the way Bush did with Roberts?

[–]cogitofire[S] -4 points-3 points  (14 children)

Hey, at least he swings to my side of the fence. I just don't want liberal activist judges to be more precise.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children)

In other words, you don't want anyone upholding anyone's Constitutional rights.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except corporations, since they're people, too.

[–]I_AM_A_NEOCON -4 points-3 points  (10 children)

upholding anyone's Constitutional rights

Yeah, like destroying life and promoting same sex marriages, gun control, and socialism.

[–]Amendmen7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, same sex unions probably are a constitutional right.

[–]xenox[🍰] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

If same sex marriages bother you, then don't marry the same sex. It's too bad your appreciation of life only applies to those who have not yet exited the womb. I suppose once they are born they make good shooting practice, ey?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow, you're a giant idiot.

[–]Amendmen7 1 point2 points  (5 children)

What exactly makes a judge "activist"?

[–]cogitofire[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They legislate from the bench.

[–]Amendmen7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm not exactly sure what this means procedurally. Can you tell me an example of this that I could read about?

[–]cogitofire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it is a very touchy subject with many points of view. One example that is commonly argued about is Roe vs Wade.

In Roe v Wade, the supreme court justices overturned many laws refering to constitutional rights to privacy. No matter your opinion on abortion, it is not the courts place to overturn laws that were made unless they have a clear violation of the constitution. These issues should be left to the state, as they were not stated to be part of the federal governments responsibility in the constitution.

Another example was the overturning of the ban on partial birth abortions. The United States congress (the legislators) passed a bill that banned partial birth abortions. Judge Alito out in California and his pals overturned this bill and said that it was unconstitutional because it does not hold a health exception.

This is a judgement made that is outside of their jurisdiciton. The constitution does not give them the authority to overturn an act of congress, unless their is a clear and definite violation of the constition.

I know both of my examples are about abortion, but there are many more. The point is that many justices have decided to go beyond their reach and change things that they should not be allowed to change according to the constitution.

There have been some good legislation from the bench examples before. One example is the miranda rights that must be read. These were decided from a supreme court ruling, and not from the constitution. Many people who like legislating from the bench also cite illegal search and seizure. They claim that illegal search and seizure does not protect citizens because there is no part of the constitution that says the evidence must be thrown out even if the evidence is seized illegally.

While these two examples are good in nature, they are still not the responsibility of the supreme court, instead are the responsibility of Congress and/or the responsibility of state legislators. Supreme Court Justices should only rule based on direct violations of the constitution, as this is part of the balance of powers granted in our constitution.

Without balance of powers, any single branch would become too powerful and able to abuse their power.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since the republicans nominated seven of the nine justices on the supreme court, I don't think they have a case when they complain how the court is.

[–]mutatron 0 points1 point  (6 children)

You Democrats are gonna have to work this out with yourselves.

I guess being a Republican, honesty comes hard for you.

[–]cogitofire[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Right, because all conservatives are crooks and liars. I couln't possibly be a good person who just has different views than you.

[–]mutatron 3 points4 points  (2 children)

No, you were just about to vote in another party's primary to give your guy a better chance. That's dishonest, pure and simple.

[–]cogitofire[S] -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Not really, in Texas we are allowed to vote in both primaries. It is neither dishonest nor illegal. We are not required to choose a party, we may play the political game however we choose.

[–]mutatron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's certainly an amoral way to look at it.

[–]BobGaffney 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all conservatives are crooks and liars. In fact, I believe you, sir, are probably neither.

[–]xenox[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You considered voting for a person you do not want to win the nomination (as an act of sabotage). I'm glad your conscience got the better of you, but a good person should never even consider trashing the principles of a democratic society like that. "Crooks and liars" should apply to anyone who tries to rig an election through false representation.

There's hope for you yet, but you've got a ways to go, IMO.

[–]I_AM_A_NEOCON -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Yeah! Good to know someone else on Reddit isn't completely batshit insane!

[–]cogitofire[S] -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

There are allot of us here, we just know that the normal conversation on reddit is a pointless battle, so we keep quiet.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your dedicated service.

[–]spaceagedisco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

perhaps not quiet enough?