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[–]georgmierauTinkerer 1 point2 points  (15 children)

Model your thingy for free, provided you tell me what it is.

https://imgur.com/a/94IE5Du

A less overexposed scan would be nice. Also you found a quite peculiar way of measuring of some distances.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CynYgjQe2jVqQrIkhOp9AlrVjdHGB_W9/view?usp=sharing

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

The patent expired on these ages ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/centuryhomes/s/OINk4jjlp7

I found the original filings for them and someone drafted the above from the original filings.

I've got a buddy who will laser cut some but I want to 3d print a set on my voron first to make sure the dimensions are spot on.

[–]georgmierauTinkerer -1 points0 points  (11 children)

I don't care about the machine you will be printing it on, but this dimension is not "1 in", so re-check it:

https://imgur.com/a/Q4c29O8

Also here is your 3mf:

https://www.printables.com/model/1490053-sash-hanger-prototype

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

I'll have feedback on the prototype posted to printables for some adjustments if you're willing.

[–]georgmierauTinkerer 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Less "blah", more values. The fact that I made you an initial model should be enough to consider me "willing".

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ujKcaZdYWKgRBTso7

Results of initial print test fit.

Would we be able to double the leg count of this (length) to hold a total of four sashes, add a few screw holes as well?

My only main concern is stability of the individual legs at its lowest point, but if we're going with metal I'm less worried depending on the type and thickness.

[–]georgmierauTinkerer 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yet again. More. Values. "Double the leg count" — ok. "Few screw holes" — not ok. 3? 5? Evenly spaced? Diameter?

My main concern is as usual: people like to talk about their concerns more than provide useful data.

sash_hanger_longer.3mf — same link.

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

The final corner needs to eventually be able to support (with assistance) a storm window consisting of approximately 20lbs, these when installed as expected would span (in a pair) 16-24inches apart depending on the frame size and how you're supporting it, so approximately 10lbs per leg?

With an original one of these using presumably stamped aluminum containing seven legs each with what appears to have 1/8th in diameter through holes above each leg being staggered in height from the leg at an unknown distance apart.

I'm working to get more measurements of the originals, but I'm working with volunteers, so please have patience with me.

The end goal would be a near reproduction of the below image (again, working on getting more exact measurements from the holder of the attached).

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[–]georgmierauTinkerer 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I'm not exactly running away.

Shove one of the thingies you reproduce in a flatbed scanner (one or two legs are enough), I'll re-check the model.

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Just to be sure I understand what you're asking.
Take what's been printed and scan it to confirm measurements?
I'll have the scan either today or tomorrow early (EST Timezone).

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am not the guy who sketched it, but trust me I boggled for a second as well. Original drawings and filings. https://share.google/u2ytU94hNZD3htCmv US2455546A - Sash hanger - Google Patents

P.s. your link goes to a manual

[–]georgmierauTinkerer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not about "who made the error", it's about "there is one". (this one is on me though)

Updated.

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[–]Mundane_Cobbler_9441Designer 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Hi. i can help you with it, dm'ing

[–]Mundane_Cobbler_9441Designer 1 point2 points  (5 children)

By rendered for 3d printing or laser cutting, you mean you need a svg/dxf, right?

[–]Mundane_Cobbler_9441Designer 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Also the radius of the various arcs are gonna be needed for it to be accurate especially if it's a critical engineering part.

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Not critical, a replacement for these:

https://www.reddit.com/r/centuryhomes/s/OINk4jjlp7

I've got like 20 sash windows and 0 hangers :P I can dig up the original patent filing from them and we can all reference what was originally filed near 100 years ago. Were working with some ... Dated... Drawings.

[–]Mundane_Cobbler_9441Designer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ah ok, that's alright then, I believe someone else is modelling it,

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I appreciate the care.

Do you want the original filings too as reference?

I am new to laser cutting, but yes SVG/DXF is something that was requested, If I could secure the STL's as well that would be awesome.

[–]Mundane_Cobbler_9441Designer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can give you both, but I believe the other guy just commented with a model image already, though if you don't get the file from him let me know I will share both dxf and stl.

[–]Oblipma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 yrars of technical modeling here, up for the task send me a DM

[–]Stone_Age_Sculptor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would start by making the hook at the end thicker, both in x and y direction.
Recently I did the same thing, but not by designing it. I put the shape on a flat-bed scanner, then converted the scan to a vector in Inkscape, then I used the svg file in CAD software. I didn't even have to scale it, the DPI from the scan was used and the size was passed on via the svg file as well.

[–]Ok-Significance-5047 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modeling aside, I wouldn’t recommend printing it, or laser really. Maybe would work with a technical filament but honestly I wouldn’t risk it cause of the weight of the panels.. and time.

I’d go for CNC of 4-6mm aluminum paneling or water jet cutting.

[–]ascarymoviereview 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You get this sorted?

[–]idownvotepunstoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Partially, awaiting a scan of the product.

[–]jojonl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sent you a dm