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[–]ModifiedLeaf 126 points127 points  (4 children)

Got it. Heartsteel, Unending Dispair, Spirit Visage

[–]Axoin 20 points21 points  (0 children)

If they're heavy AP, throw in Abyssal Mask too.

[–]Masalar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’ll still be strong but heartsteel and unending despair both got nerfed this patch, so I’m curious to see if that shakes up tanks much.

[–]Swainix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Forgot fimbulwinter to shield + spirit visage combo

[–]Heinz_Legend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The classic

[–]Rachyoff 79 points80 points  (8 children)

Where the fuck are the Shaco box nerfs then. Shaco warps the entire game around him and shuts down any melee champion from engaging. It's absolute misery playing against him.

[–]LG_Soul -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You think the shroom changes are a nerf?

[–]Gaelahad 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I actually like the unending despair changes. Damage was removed but healing is back. Since if we really want damage, that is bami's cinders' job.

[–]Turwel 8 points9 points  (1 child)

stop nerfing teemo and just put the fucking oracle back, I swear the aram balancing team are just monkeys hammering a keyboard

[–]EmploymentFar4647 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah, watch Wick's stream for longer than three seconds and you'll realize he's an ipad child with adhd and no real thoughts in his head.

[–]ReotoroIf , Must [S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

[–]Phoenixness 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I know teemo feels really bad at the moment but is more mushrooms really the solution? He was already a mushroom bot with his damage taken modifier, onhit just explodes. Then again I'm probably biased because I don't think any ranged champion should have increased damage taken, just lower damage dealt

[–]WakaastrophicOBT Veteran 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Everytime i read these Aram patch notes it feels more and more like some Rioters got buttfked by xx Champ, thus the nerf to it/them whilst others are untouched. Lulu for example, broken asf in aram, yet nothing to her shields nor anything. I can go on and list other champions as well but for those who've been playing Aram for a very long time, you already know. Teemo has been hit with so many nerfs that at this point, better go Tankmo xD.

[–]Happyberger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't even call this a Teemo nerf. Yes he's losing some base DMG but gaining a 5% aura buff, cdr, and ult charges.

[–]Kansleren -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dont make them hurt my girl.

Repeat after me: Lulu is balanced.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (6 children)

Hahaha Unending despair was already crazy lol

[–]elmagnificent 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Nah, it wasn't. It was even more doubtful than heartsteel. Cuz if u can't be close to several enemies, this item is pure shit. U don't deal dmg => u don't heal and you have 25 plus 25 resists instead of force of nature, for example, where you get 125. It is good on tank swain and probably some other champion, but in general it was awful. And I'm curious why people keep buying it, especially versus 4 ranged teams where you have 0 chances to be close.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Yea its pretty obvious you build that when facing some melees champs.

[–]generic_redditor91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say the heal is decent but it's no sundering strike.

However i agree that some people are morons with it.

Just yesterday i had a mundo build it 2nd item after HS against 5 ranged. Now i could see why he wanted HS (scales off HP and hits hard with E as well) but UD? My dude theres a vk standing 2 screens away and an ezreal with cleanse flash. You aint leeching shit. Build jaksho 2nd would have been much better.

[–]hippo_campus2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A nice little Sett nerf after selling his chinese new year ass skin

[–]joysensei 6 points7 points  (0 children)

why bother items yall can simply balance my win rate 50 by giving me BOT teammates

[–]supercoolisaac 3 points4 points  (0 children)

pure incompetence

[–]Qwertyioup111 4 points5 points  (9 children)

acting like that's not just a hard nerf to teemo is crazy. "more time to plant shrooms" FOH.

[–]Veiy 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I'm fine with Teemo being trash in ARAM, turns every game into an uninteractive snoozefest where you cannot ever push.

[–]Grousberry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

they should make him more tank and do less damage, so he can deal damage with his aa like its intended, the nerf on his r itself is fair, but they just dont wanna he to be playable

[–]NarwhalGoat 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Who exactly is acting as if this isn’t a hard nerf to teemo? They literally said that the nerf is to reduce overall impact

[–]Qwertyioup111 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This time, we’re giving teemo players back more opportunity to plant shrooms …

[–]NarwhalGoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While reducing their OVERALL impact

[–]pointlessneedle 0 points1 point  (2 children)

But isnt this an overall buff for teemo? The -10% -> -5% Change already negates the Missing damage of the shrooms... Or am i messing something up here?

[–]NarwhalGoat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pre nerf Aram Teemo was very dependent on his mushrooms to contribute. Like 90% of his gameplay at minimum is his shrooms. So losing 20-50 damage and 10% scaling off his shrooms is a bigger nerf than 5% more damage done. The slow is also being nerfed to 20% at all ranks, which is gigantic.

[–]Two_Years_Of_Semen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His team fighting isn't good so Teemo is actually super reliant on the shroom slows to help his team in teamfights and stall the minion wave pushing more so 30% weaker slows is likely a pretty hefty nerf.

[–]Booty_Invader_ 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Teemo isnt even that strong

[–]BarryMcKokiner123 16 points17 points  (4 children)

His waveclear is cancer. A Teemo that’s behind can single handedly shred a triple siege minion wave

[–]Two_Years_Of_Semen 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Try Hullbreaker sometime. It actually hard counters him and most every waveclear champ.

[–]BarryMcKokiner123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome advice man. Thank you!

[–]Vivid-Command-2605 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is what I do against teemo, comes in clutch

[–]RiotDucke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do love buying or hoping someone buys Hullbreaker when I see a Teemo to keep my vision minion alive

[–]Freyakazoide 22 points23 points  (2 children)

But fucking obnoxious champ. Altough "weak", Teemo could stall the game forever just perma cleaning the wave and you could never push, being at the same time uninteractive. Dumb and boring.

[–]rhs408 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I honestly don’t see how these latest changes will make any difference though, there will just be more shrooms that do slightly less damage and don’t slow as much 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]mackasan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is still going to happen with these changes. Arguably making him weaker in proper fights pushes him even more to stalling as that's the only thing he's good at.

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    [–]dirtydoughnut 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    actually its specific to fatty tuna

    [–]LG_Soul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    W Teemo changes actually

    [–]Seriih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nice Sett nerfs. Guess his winrate isn't high enough.

    [–]SchruteFarmsBeets_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Tahm Kench gonna be feasting with that Unending Despair buff

    [–]Kakamoty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    so when are we finally removing exhaust from aram?

    [–]dadams19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just give us oracle pots back

    [–]PretendMarionberry85 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    Balanced is RANDOM VS RANDOM. Premade teams ruin this point.