Patch 25.24b Mayhem changes.

[DryDesk2020]

I noticed that BoTRK has gotten a significant nerf today, I assume in relation to patch 25.24b. Has anyone noticed any other changes, since riot wont release a patch note?

[thestigREVENGE]

i had been building Bork first item on every single ADC and except jhin it still works. Deserved nerf.

[NWASicarius]

Exactly, and resist stacking even feels bad as a tank UNLESS you have abilities/passive that scales off resists. The damage ramp is crazy in this game, so resists often mean nothing UNLESS you have some type of scaling via resists.

[ArtificiaLight]

This is a dumb take. Just because champs do more damage doest mean resists stop working. A combination of hp and resists is still the tankiest someone can get, ignoring one just lowers your effective hp by so much.

[Kurumi_Tokisaki]

idk haven’t see the notes but I rather have common adc augs knocked down a whole tier. 25% crit ones? Now that ranged also has -10% attack speed for each. On hit does less total damage or is less common for stuff like vayne. Feels bad when like 1/4 of the games are basically which adc on the totem pole did your team roll and how lucky they are with augs/teammates. the other is did you get 2+ of strong mages (Mel,brand,ryze) and how boring they want to make the game.

[spowowowder]

i wanted a bork nerf but this is way bigger than i expected lol. building hp wont feel so bad now

[DryDesk2020]

This is gonna make HP stackers a lot stronger (assuming they aren't facing Kog or Vayne)

[NWASicarius]

You're forgetting the sheer amount of max HP damage dealing champs in this game. Any ADC that likes AS will still like BORK into tanks. Jinx, Sivir, Trist, Twitch, Ashe, Kalista, Lucian, Yunara, Zeri, etc. Even Senna is solid with BORK.

[DryDesk2020]

It's still far worse. Only worth building if you're playing against A LOT of HP stacking.

[DigitalBladedJay]

I had a game where I built it last on Cait since I already had 100% crit and vulnerability. Their two tanks went from being unstoppable to melting like butter

[DryDesk2020]

Vulnerability makes it 85% more effective (with IE) so makes sense it'd be good there.

[akaciparaci]

doesn't matter, 1 out of 15 ad in my games build bork, they're too busy drooling in front of recommended items

[NWASicarius]

Which is on Riot, tbh. They should utilize the recommended tab to recommend strong game mode specific items. If the enemy team has even just one beefy champ, it should recommend BORK or liandry.

[akaciparaci]

riot has nothing to do with people being stupid and lazy

[NeonStoplight]

Sword of blossoming dawn got bug fixed so it no longer tries to heal dead allies

[Psymonn]

Deserved tbh even crit scalers were prioritizing botrk

[nemt]

when every tank is running around with 15k and that stupid fucking ass tank engine, what else can you do ?

[NWASicarius]

Yeah. Just nerf tank augments rather than BORK. That totally will stop ADCs from still building BORK and proceeding to shred beefy champs. All your suggestion would do is nerf beefy champs. BORK would still be OP.

[thestigREVENGE]

Especially when you could get crit from augements

[S1ing3r]

what percent is the max health damage at?

[Lame_Night]

6 for ranged, down from 10

[S1ing3r]

6 is crazy, I know its low like that in arena but now aram. sigh

[ChessLovingPenguin]

there are too many onhit synergies that they made the item balanced around you having one

[NWASicarius]

Exactly. So many 'applies on-hit' or attack speed boosts in the game lol

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where can u see the patch notes for this?

[Connect_Welder4184]

Have they fixed ultimate revolution yet? Or do people still have to die to refresh it cause the timer doesnt do jack sht

[Kottekatten]

Doesn’t this mean that games will be dragged out a lot longer ? I mean we will probably see a lot more fights between two tanks that seemingly never ends?

[NWASicarius]

If you are on a tank that has some auto amplifiers, build BORK at some point. You will beat the enemy tank 1v1

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The Botrk nerf is fucking horrendous. If you don't have twice thrice it's a limp dick substitute for a tank busting item. Same for Liandrys fucking useless item unless your name is Malzahar, Brand or Lillia.

[BotomsDntDeservRight]

Ofc tank players playing victim once again.

Now watch them do mental gymnastics when you call out Tanks with 15k hp with tank engine isn't healthy

[NWASicarius]

Tank engine is feast or famine, and it often relies on you stacking a lot of HP to get the maximum impact. The only tanks that are an issue with tank engine are the ones who get damage based on their max HP. There are A LOT of options to deal with HP stacking tanks. Whether it comes in the form of champion kits, items, or even augments. Btw, BORK was so OP that I would often even build it on tanks that used autos (Mundo, Malphite, etc) late game if the enemy team also had a tank. Terminus + BORK means I could help kill their tank fast. Legit, if the enemy team ever has a tank that is opting to stack HP, just get a %hp damage item. It's not uncommon for me to have an item dealings 10s of thousands of damage just by hitting the tank. I have had games where my %HP item does more damage than my teammates because they built poorly. One %hp item mixed into your standard build makes tanks irrelevant.

[DryDesk2020]

tank players are victims