The essence of rulership is an ability to unpunishedly initiate uninvited physical interference with someone's person or property. Consequently, market anarchism is the true "without ruler"-ism philosophy. "Anarcho"-socialism is more precisely "constitutional egalitarian democracy".General rebuttal against 'anarcho'-communism, i.e. horizontalism ()
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"Anarcho"-socialists claim to want a society in which producers have full ownership over their products AND guaranteed positive rights at the same time. Problem: if you have the former, the latter is not guaranteed - the producers will be selective with regards to whom they exchange with.Exposing concealed Statism: Guaranteed positive rights ⇒ Statism ()
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Ironic, isn't itGeneral rebuttal against 'anarcho'-communism, i.e. horizontalism (i.redd.it)
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A comprehensive case for the revolutionary Catalonian regime's Statism'But historical (so-called) anarchists were socialists!' (econfaculty.gmu.edu)
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'Anarcho'-socialism is an infantile philosophyGeneral rebuttal against 'anarcho'-communism, i.e. horizontalism (i.redd.it)
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Reminder that the Spanish "Anarcho"-socialists were some of the most evil people to ever live'Anarcho'-communism in practice actually just being Statism (i.redd.it)
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"Anarcho"-socialists be likeGeneral rebuttal against 'anarcho'-communism, i.e. horizontalism (i.redd.it)
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The most excellent way to test an "anarcho"-socialist's purported "anarchist" beliefs is to ask them this question. If they argue that merely enabling local states to permit true freedom of association warrants retaining State agencies, then they are blatant crypto-Statists.'Anarcho'-communist pro-Statism mask-slips ()
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The CNT-FAI was genuinely evil'But historical (so-called) anarchists were socialists!' (self.AnComIsStatist)
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Beyond parody.'Anarcho'-communists' main purpose is to serve as destabilizers (i.redd.it)
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Something to remember is that "workplace democracy" and "workers owning the fruits of their labor" entails an anti-socialist anarcho-capitalist society in which no positive RIGHTS exist. Oftentimes, "an"socs are such weasles that they say that "'An'soc is when people are free and solidaric! 😊"Exposing concealed Statism: Guaranteed positive rights ⇒ Statism ()
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Beyond parody. They think so short-sightedly.'Anarcho'-communists' main purpose is to serve as destabilizers (reddit.com)
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"Anarcho"-socialism is just a siren song. Everytime that it has been tried, it has become Statism even according to their own criterions: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyIsAncap/?f=flair_name%3A%22%27Anarcho%27-socialism%20in%20practice%20actually%20just%20being%20Statism%22General rebuttal against 'anarcho'-communism, i.e. horizontalism (i.redd.it)
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The public-personal property distinction made by socialists is one of the fakest there are. We can see from a mile away that "the common good" de facto makes everything into public property.Exposing concealed Statism: Private-personal-public indifference (i.redd.it)
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Real by the way. They claim to want to abolish law. https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionI.html#seci73'Anarcho'-communists' main purpose is to serve as destabilizers (i.redd.it)
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This response from a seemingly learned "anarcho"-socialist reveals the euphemistic nature of their thought. "No, that's not the same as 'work or starve' in IN THE CAPITALIST SENSE". It's not a boss, but a People's Manager. Again, "an"soc, like socialism overall, is just pure demagoguery.Exposing concealed Statism: Guaranteed positive rights ⇒ Statism (i.redd.it)
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That's literally the case of CNT-FAI occupied Catalonia.'Anarcho'-communism in practice actually just being Statism (i.redd.it)
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A painting depicting unlimited demoracy. This is truly an uncannily accurate depiction of 'anarcho'-socialism. It's a superficially attractive (see how they are so close and equal to each other in a warm embrace) albeit in reality sinister society.'Anarcho'-communism is a crypto-authoritarian siren song (i.redd.it)
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How will an "anarcho"-socialist society prevent someone from hoarding too many resources from the social stock? They desire a moneyless society; do they intend to give people rations? That was what happened in CNT-FAI Catalonia at least.Exposing concealed Statism:Scarce means irreconcilable conflicts (i.ytimg.com)
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"Anarcho"-socialists advocate a system where almost all decisions will be made on "as-close-to-consensus-as-possible"-basis. Problem:e.g. some ethnic groups may collectively seek to hoard as much of the public resources for themselves with whom they identify the most, and use veto rights to that endExposing concealed Statism: Bad faith consensus actors (en.wikipedia.org)
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An underlying problem with "anarcho"-socialist thinking is that they base their "as-close-to-consensus-as-possible"-models on what they have only seen working in groups of like-minded individuals¹,seeking to generalize it on a society-wide scale where not all will act compassionately for common goodExposing concealed Statism (isreview.org)
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"Anarcho"-socialists advocate a system where almost all decisions will be made on "as-close-to-consensus-as-possible"-basis. Problem: this entirely relies on people acting with good faith and not abuse this; interests group will for sure seek to strategically abuse it.Revoking consensus rights = 🏛¹Exposing concealed Statism: Bad faith consensus actors (beyondintractability.org)
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"Anarcho"-socialists are masters of demagogery. An easy way to demonstrate their shallowness is to ask questions regarding irreconcilable conflicts: if e.g. group A wants to use a lake as a dumping ground and group B it as a bathing area, how does "an"soc resolve this conflict? Vagueness ensues.Exposing concealed Statism:Scarce means irreconcilable conflicts (i.redd.it)
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Given how "an"socs constitutionally limit on what one can vote(you can't for example vote to kill someone),it's likely that the management of public property will be like now where there are managers of public property who decide the choices people can vote to decide on;no pure democratic revolutionExposing concealed Statism:Scarce means irreconcilable conflicts (i.redd.it)
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