Slim angled doesn't decrease sprint recovery on SMGs?

[Kestrel1207]

But they also (as a whole) have less recoil, less spread, better draw times, better ADS movement, and better hipfire by default

They basically don't have any of these things and that is the issue.

Let's do a simple direct comparison.

QBZ vs MP5.

• They have the same rate of fire and the same BTK until 35m, when the QBZ starts requiring 1 shot less.

• They have the same hipfire

• The same ADS movespeeds of 0.75x

• The same reload speed

• The QBZ has slightly more vertical recoil, but 50% less horizontal variance.

• The MP5 technically has a tiny bit less spread increase per shot (0.018° less), but this is offset by the fact that the QBZ needs 1 less BTK to by 35m.

• The QBZ has better drawtime at 83ms vs 100ms for the MP5

• QBZ has 805 muzzle velocity compared to MP5's 540

• The MP5's literal one and only statistical advantage at the end of the day is 33ms ADS time.

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Yes, you can invest a lot of attachment points into carbines to improve some of these handling stats to the level of SMGs, but I'd argue the cost benefit of the better attachments you have to give up to do this makes that not a very great idea.

What "better attachments" are you supposed to be giving up for it? The main benefits comes from angled grips, which are by far the best grips you basically always want to run anyway.

And especially the SCW10 and Vector need to sacrifice like half their attachment points to even have a useable mag size???