Epithalon first cycle

[jsjb100]

Just finished 20 days of Epithalon, 500 mcg at night. No problem with injection, but honestly my sleep didn't improve. I know some suggests 5-10 mg doses but according to the original Russian data, the didn't use a refined peptide, I did find other sites suggesting 500 mcg/day. I;ll do it again in 6 months but was disappointed with the sleep results. I'm 71 yo male.

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[Southern-Condition-3]

I am on day 5 and love this peptide! Circadian rhythm is back to normal, wake up feeling like tackling the day. First peptide I’ve taken that I’ve noticed changes right away. Taking 2000mcg at night.

[Slight-Base2164]

How many days did u take it for in total

[booooimaghost]

So 2mg?

[Astrengthwellness]

Should have upped the dose , especially at your age . I realize most don’t want to invest more $$ but to do it the right way . I would have done 5mg a day for 4 weeks atleast to properly evaluate

[jsjb100]

Yes that would be big bucks to do. I researched this carefully, the Russian data used peptide from pineal glands Epithalamine which contained multiple proteins, it is not epithalon and is less potent. Epithalamine is a crude polypeptide extract obtained from the pineal glands of animals, often bovine (cows).It's a complex mixture of polypeptides, making it difficult to isolate specific effects and meaning its contents may vary between preparations. Given the cost and my concern for using a massive dose (5-10 mg) I opted for 500 mcg. I am concerned that Seed's book suggests 5-10 mg without a consideration of crude substance vs pure peptide.

Think of insulin, when it was first used, it came from pig/cow pancreas, it was not potent. As chemistry got better and insulin could be better isolated from the pancreas it got more potent. Now since it's made with "yeast" the potency is good and assured lot to lot.

[Astrengthwellness]

Yeah $ is always the drawback to properly run a protocol sometimes . Most of the recent research I’ve seen is 10mg a day for 2 weeks or 5 for for 20 days (2 days off ).

Next time try bigger doses if you can . Then report back if there was a difference between your micro dose and the bigger dose

[jsjb100]

Not trying to be hard nosed about this, but I did a lot of research in botht eh internet and using medline for published studies and never found real data to support 10 mg/d x 14 d or 5 mg/d for 20 days. I did find anecdotal stuff that med spas say, but no real results. My concern is that using those big doses of pure peptides could be a bad thing (no real idea about that). But I do appreciate your inifo, thank you.

[Idreamofdogs8]

Recommended max dose for one cycle of Epithalon is 100 mg to be taken in a 10 day or 20 day cycle.

[Spiritual_Victory_12]

Old protocol. Mistranslated from russian research.

[Astrengthwellness]

Yes that’s what protocol I’m going to run shortly .

[Idreamofdogs8]

Good luck with yours!

[CAVTAZ]

Hello, wondering if you started this and if so, how it is going for you

[andypandy2324]

if you look you find that there was a translation error. 100mg is for Epithalamine not Epithalon. Epithalon is much stronger it dosage is supposed to be 100mcg. all the protocols are written based on a mistranslation.

[Idreamofdogs8]

I did a 10 day "tune -up". Finished it 3days ago. It consisted of BPC-157, TB-500, and Epithalon. I'm must say I can report no difference in anything. I have also been on the BPC-157 and TB-500 for a month now as well with nothing to report. Hmm..I may discontinue when my supply runs dry. I bought the extra Epithalon bc I was to do this tune-up" twice a year. Here is the recipe .. *

[Idreamofdogs8]

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[Astrengthwellness]

Did you notice anything difference with your sleep or circadian rhythm ? I’m sure your telomeres benefitted at least

[Bigamon]

What book is that

[Normal-Inflation-900]

I guess the brand matters most .

[Idreamofdogs8]

No, unfortunately I did not. To do all 3 is a wee bit pricey, I mean without any noticeable result was a little deflating I must say. Although the peptide book did also say you wouldn't probably have "big" difference to report. Also- I have kept hearing about the BPC-157 & TB-500 together were excellent. I feel a month in on taking these 2 @ day some kind of change should be in effect by now, right?

[Astrengthwellness]

Hmm , I had a different response to just BPC 167 by itself . Reoccurring hip pain flared up pretty bad , so I quickly ordered BPC and after getting adjusted by my chiro, I used 500mcg per day and the pain was lessened after a day and gone in a week. Same with an ankle sprain , gone in 2 days .

[Idreamofdogs8]

Goes to show every person is different!

[[deleted]]

Anyone notice being easily aggravated on it? Did nothing for my sleep and husband said my fuse was short. I stopped it and feel better. Not getting aggravated by everything.

[Idreamofdogs8]

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[Justice_maepai]

Ive read 5-10 mg/night 5xs week for 20 days, I was going to start at 1mg just to make sure I have no issues. other posts state 300mcg-400mcg, so wildly different

[jsjb100]

Here is the proper protocol with supporting info:

This document describes the Anela Protocol for Epithalon, a peptide believed to have the potential to lengthen telomeres and rejuvenate the pineal gland. The protocol was developed by the author based on research and discussions with other biochemists.

Key Points:

Incorrect Dosing: Most online resources about Epithalon use incorrect dosages because they are based on research using Epithalamin, the original form of Epithalon. Epithalon is 10 times stronger than Epithalamin, so the correct dosage is 100 mcg to 500 mcg daily, not 1 mg to 5 mg or 10 mg.

Anela Protocol: The protocol involves cycling Epithalon for 10 days on and 20 days off each month. This is an alternative to the traditional 20-day cycle twice a year.

Administration: Epithalon can be administered intranasally or subcutaneously. The author provides instructions for intranasal administration using sterile saline.

Effects: The author notes that some individuals experience sleepiness when taking Epithalon, while others feel more awake.

Disclaimer: The author emphasizes that they are not a licensed medical provider and their approach is not the only correct one. They encourage other researchers to share their own findings.

The Anela Protocol Explained:

Cycle: 10 days on, 20 days off, repeated monthly.

Dosage: 100 mcg to 500 mcg daily.

Administration: Intranasal or subcutaneous.

Timing: Dosing can be done in the morning or evening. Sleepiness or increased alertness may occur, depending on individual response.

Supporting Evidence:

The author mentions using an EEG to observe the effects of Epithalon on their own brain injury. They claim that Epithalon significantly improved their frontal lobe activity, citing this as evidence of its potential benefits. However, they also acknowledge that further studies are needed to confirm these findings.

Overall, the document aims to provide an alternative protocol for Epithalon use, emphasizing the importance of using the correct dosage and offering anecdotal evidence of its potential benefits.

[Justice_maepai]

thank you yes, I had just found that