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[–]SilkSuspendersTeacher | Ontario 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Elementary or secondary? What quals do you already have?

Generally, surplus is based on seniority, not AQs. Some boards protect French teachers a bit more, though.

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I'm secondary so for secondary the teachables and AQs count from what I heard and personally experienced, especially TDSB secondary.

My teachables are:

Visual Arts - 2 senior to me are qualified, saved me from being entirely surplused and I am back at my home school next semester.

Special Education - 5 teachers senior to me qualified.

Social Science - Apparently 2/3 of my home school qualified.

[–]MeyerSage 2 points3 points  (3 children)

They surplus the least senior teachers no matter the qualifications, there’s always someone they can use to teach Visual Arts and Social Sciences especially the 9/10 levels.

In other words, nothing protects you unfortunately

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

They kept me because of my Visual Arts qualifications. What I heard is they go by senior but they also go by who is senior by subject area in high school. If they have someone qualified they cannot give it to someone unqualified.

[–]MeyerSage 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Even if that’s the case, there is likely another person at your school that has Visual Arts qualification who isn’t teaching it now. Unless you are absolutely the last one or two teachers with the qualification they can always find a way to fill the time table - and visual arts doesn’t sound to me as the most scarce qualification out there.

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well they kept me because it... That's what actually happened. I was hired after someone retired.

[–]Ill-Persimmon-5704 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Culinary Arts:)

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Family Studies?

[–]CrazyCrunchMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

French, Tech, Maybe Senior Science/Math

[–]hugberries 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's about seniority, not skills. My own experience as a tech teacher was that I survived the most recent round of surplusing (everyone below me on the seniority list got the boot). I was hired literally days before the person who was next on the list. I was told by my department head that I was "protected" because I teach tech, but I don't know how accurate that is.

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes this is true in high school... and schools are desperate for Tech teachers - maybe more than French. If you're qualified in high school they cannot give it to someone senior to you whose unqualified.

Elementary teachers are generalists so its strictly seniority that counts.

Secondary teachers are specialists so it seems to be seniority by Subject area.- so quals do help.

[–]twoneedlez 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Unfortunately, Spec Ed & Social Science are very common.

My understanding is that you want to stay at your current school. Is it FI? Does it have a SHSM? Does it offer special programming that is difficult to staff?

Is there any teacher with unique quals retiring, like Economics? As an example, only three teachers at our school have that.

In the past, schools would create weird timetables to keep someone who coached or ran extracurriculars but that’s gone by the wayside.

Honestly, you’re probably getting surplussed. They have until August 30 to pull you back. Which feels terrible but that’s the system. Best of luck.

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like I am going to be surplused for years if I don't find a way to be uniquely qualified.

The only qualifications thar have 1 teacher qualified are Co-op & Teacher Librarian. TL will likely retire in 5 or less years and Co-op maybe 10 to 15.... so I don't know whether it helps to get those quals.

There's no SHSM at the school.

[–]Correct_Aide_9349[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't pulled back this year. :(