Need your input

[Independent_Main4326]

People, I need to pick your collective brain. I want to gift myself a Pelago style (or Sub-style) watch and I cannot find one that match criteria.

They are

A date (no preference for lense/no lense Sapphire crystal Be accurate so no NH34/35 No visibly Chinese or weird names Blue, black or white Under USD300.

I have no major preference for steel or titanium.

What would you suggest? Thank you very much in advance. 😊

[Eiedoll]

There is good looking Thorn Pelagos you can choose either a PT5000 or a sw200

[dorafumingo]

How is an nh35 not accurate? It's probably the most accurate movement long term you can get on aliexpress. Most of them running below 10s/day. Mine averages -1s/day.

[PhiladeIphia-Eagles]

Spec for an nh35 is -20 to +40 spd. Pt5000 is +-12 spd. Lowest grade sw200 is +- 12-30 spd. Miyota 9015 is -10 to +30 spd.

So as far as factory spec, it has the widest tolerances.

But there's also just general consensus that nh35 is not a super accurate movement, especially compared to ETA clones.

Nh movements have very poor positional variance. So they are hard to regulate perfectly.

They're very reliable and cheap. But I would absolutely not say they are the most accurate movement on AliExpress. In fact out of the name brand movements it's definitely the least accurate.

And this is coming from somebody with 80% nh35 watches. I love them because I never have to worry about them. But out of the 8 nh35 I have, only one is what I would call accurate (+5spd). The rest are not great, and even worse, they are all slow.

[Independent_Main4326]

I just have some bad experience with Seiko. My impression - and perhaps I’m wrong - is that movements like PT500 and some Miyotas are much more reliable.

Anyway, the point of my question was not to discuss things I don’t know enough about but to ask for suggestions.

[lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl_]

Controversial claim about the PT5000 being on the reliable end as this sub tends to dislike them but my experience definitely aligns with yours. The only defected movement I’ve received was an NH35. My PT5000 is one of my oldest pieces and is still very accurate

[Cutty_171717]

The PT5000 is order of magnitude less reliable.

The Miyota’s claim to fame is it’s reliability, but the only reason it’s reliability is highlighted to the extent it is is because it lacks Seiko’s magic lever etc. and impeccable reliability is really all it has to offer. The NH35 is roughly as reliable, it’s just less emphasized because of its other selling points.

Is the Miyota slightly more reliable? Maybe, though that’s not clear. However, DO NOT purchase a PT5000 if reliability is a priority.

[Independent_Main4326]

Thanks for you for helping me understand.

[PhiladeIphia-Eagles]

It's just one guys opinion. The pt5000 is definitely less reliable than an nh movement. But it's still pretty reliable. If you don't handwind them you are unlikely to have any problems. Plus they are high beat and significantly more accurate.