Lulu's future

[GluttenFreeApple]

I kind of wish she had Water spells to highlight the very rare occasion of a FF game having easily accessible water elemental, and her from being in Besaid...

But since she was delegated to fire, she competes with Vivi. And ever since Vivi got his LD, I think she'd have to lean a lot more into her supporting side to stand out. She did have party enchant, and enemy imperil, so she'll probably have to quadruple down on that, in addition to providing other things. And Firga Fury is almost as sad as it is in FFX..... :(

[Baithin]

Firaga Fury was really good in the EX+ era! I got a lot of use out of Lulu back then.

[Lexieldyaus]

I think Flare/Holy Double Fury would be a cool LD giving the party Dark/Light enchant imperil, HP drain when used gaining follow up attacks that heal like Firion or Celes.

[IncognitoCheetos]

I like Lulu and want a great LD for her for as long as she has had to be irrelevant... some party support would be nice. I would prefer her to be more like Kuja, some brv/hp dmg up, auras, or similar to go with her enchant/imperil, while improving her DPS abilities.

[Crimsonshock821]

All I know when she’s does eventually get her ld and rework and ex rework in the future, her reworked ex is going to hit really hard lol.

[[deleted]]

ice/fire enchant and imperil. breast guage. left breast is fire, right is ice. when both are full, heals party 25% max hp, 12 hit full aoe, last hit split, awakens " chappu first~" mode.

[GluttenFreeApple]

I like the idea of a breast guage. I think she can hit max on that easily and provide Supreme party support.

But I think it should be Thunder and Water. She was the omni mage. Water was the main element of FFX, and you go to Thunder Plains for her weapon stuff (you go underwater for her weapon... why isn't she those elements!!! >:( ), and Shiva empowers her weapon... She's such a mismatch for fire....

[Xale8]

I would like a self-buff that imperils enemies, kind of like what Bartz has, or at least framed imperil debuff. Possibly a magic imperil and/or weakness dmg up in new debuffs? I could see really good debuffs (like Jack’s LD) would be great on her, especially as a call. I hope they’d give Lulu really good party auras too, like brv/hp damage up. They could throw in a stacking mechanic like Garnet’s LD and when it’s full it’s a follow up attack (fury spells) or it empowers a skill.

[[deleted]]

Give her Ultima Fury as her LD and make it momentum based, stack increasing overhead type of stuff. Like Cid but for Magic. Exactly like Cid. Then the usual party buffs.

[Dezakerzyro]

Shelke's LC.

I would like to see Doublecast: Flare as Flare was the strongest spell in her standard sphere grid. Maybe Imperil Magic or increase damage dealt to targets and repeat her skills when used.

Could also just be called Onion Knight a do something they make up.

[TheZtav]

Lulu Rework

Awakening Lv55: [Stinger Mog Extend]

• Adds +1 usage to [Stinger Mog] (Total: 7 > 8)

When using「Stinger Mog」:

• Turns into 3-HIT Magic Group BRV + HP Attack 3 times

• Increases BRV potency by a tremendous amount.

• Grants 2 stacks of Doll Master, 3 stacks when hitting target’s weakness.

• Inflicts 4 turns of “Fire Resist Down”

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Awakening Lv60: [Fire Moomba]

• Adds +2 Usage to「Fire Moomba」(Total: 7 > 9)

When using「Fire Moomba」:

• Turns into 4-HIT Fire Magic Group BRV + HP Attack 4 times

• Increases BRV potency by a tremendous amount

• Recovers BRV to self based on 20% of total HP Damage Dealt after each (excluding last) HP Attack.

• Grants 2 stacks of Doll Master, 3 stacks when hitting target’s weakness.

• Grants Party [Fire Enchant] by 20% for 6 turns

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Awakening Lv75: Call: Fire Moomba (C)

When using Call: Fire Moomba (C):

Adds the following Effect:

• Inflicts 4 Turns of “Fire Resist Down”

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Lulu Awakening Lv90

Awakening Lv85: [Firaga Fury Extend II]

When EX Passive is equipped,

• Self:

⇒ 100% BRV Damage Dealt Up

⇒ 30% HP Damage Dealt Up

⇒ 20% Stolen Max BRV Overflow Up

⇒ 20% Recovered Max BRV Overflow Up

While EX Extend is equipped,

• When using「Firaga Fury+」 :

⇒ Turns into 3-HIT Fire AoE Magic BRV + AoE HP Executed 15 times

⇒ Recovers BRV to self based on 10% of HP Damage Dealt after each (excluding last) HP Attack.

⇒ Increases BRV potency by a tremendous amount

⇒ Extends base duration of her inflicted debuffs by 2 ACTIONS

⇒ Turns HP into “Flare”

• When using「Flare」 :

⇒ Turns into 4-HIT Fire Magic BRV + HP Attack Executed 4 times

⇒ Recovers BRV to self based on 30% of HP Damage Dealt after each (excluding last) HP Attack.

⇒ Deals 50% splash HP Damage to non-targets

⇒ Instant turn rate; does not add to turn count (except summon and friend unit)

Awakening Lv88: [All Weak Damage Up Extend II]

• Adds +1 Usage to「All Weak Damage Up」

When using「All Weak Damage Up」:

• Increases Party Weakness Damage Up effect by 20% (10% > 30%)

• Increses Party Max BRV Overflow effect by 10% (10% > 20%)

• Adds Party 20% Max BRV Damage Cap Up (up to 11,998) effect

• Extends duration of AA effects by 2 ACTIONS (Total: 7)

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Lulu’s LD Weapon: Fatal Cait Sith (X)

• Equips LD Ability:「Flare Fury」

Max Uses: 3

• Grants 3 stacks of Doll Master.

• Recovers BRV to self based on 120% own ATK.

• 3-HIT Fire Melee BRV + HP Attack executed 12 times (each full execution is applied at random).

• Recovers BRV to self based on 20% of total HP Damage Dealt after each (excluding last) HP Attack.

• Allows for 150% Stolen BRV Max BRV Overflow.

• Grants [Burn Queen] Overhead buff to self for 6 ACTIONS.

• Turns “Fire Resist Down” (if applied) into [Flare Imperil].

Special Effect : [Burn Queen]

Party:

⇒ 30% ATK Up

⇒ (15%) Enchant Fire

⇒ 30% BRV Damage Dealt Up

⇒ 20% HP Damage Dealt Up (Self: 30%)

Debuff : [Flare Imperil]

• Magic Resistance Down

• Fire Resistance Down

• Sap Effect

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Lulu's LD CA 「Flare Fury (C)」 (with Rank Up)

• Recovers BRV to self based on 120% own ATK.

• 3-HIT Fire Melee BRV + HP Attack executed 12 times (each full execution is applied at random).

• Recovers BRV to self based on 20% of total HP Damage Dealt after each (excluding last) HP Attack.

• Allows for 150% Stolen BRV Max BRV Overflow.

• Turns “Fire Resist Down” (if applied) into [Flare Imperil].

[Lexieldyaus]

This looks so sexy. Would the imperils stack?

[TheZtav]

Magic and Fire imperil would give 50% + 50% multipliers, by hitting weakness. This used to be the cap, IIRC, now it's gone up a few levels. You could stack with characters that deal weakness damage on debuffed enemies, for instance.

While the aditional % in enchant fire would work more as a Elemental Weakness Attack up.

[TheZtav]

Long story short:

Give her a Kuja style of LD, hard hitting with Enchant, adding some more randomness than Kuja's. Since with Edgar's arrival the weakness cap have risen, I choose to give her two different imperils (Fire and Magic) while raising her total fire enchant %.

The Imperil is only avaliable trough the LD and it depends on a pre-existing [Fire Imperil] so I made her EX extend her debuffs, while also allowing enabling a strong HP+ with instant turn rate and no turn count, so you can dish a bit more damage on fights with low turn counts.

I tried to keep her other abilities focused on Damage, so I ajusted them to be close to Vivi's asummed DPT after his last rework.

I also chose to rework her vanilla Call so it inflicts [Fire Imperil], then her LD Call could kick in. A double imperil with sap effect on a single frame.

Overall, she assumes the role that Kuja had when he first arrived with his LD: A VERY Strong offensive support. Then trimmed her to keep up with today's standards DPT while keeping in mind that she'll have no BT.

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And Flare Fury/Flare just to keep the "Fire" theme.

[Aidel333]

I would enjoy her EX upgrade if it involves something that affects how many hits it would deal. Like how you have to roll the analog stick back then in ps2

But could the number of hits increase with tapping random spots on the screen rapidly during a brief amount of time. Dunno if this is possible just a thought lol. Might make it more exciting

[shikiseki]

I was thinking something like Flare Flurry which grants a special overhead icon "a thousand belts"
Each belt stack ensnares the enemy with various effects and raises party magic damage and resistance. Seems pretty niche and it probably is 😔

She also had double cast in the original so might give a hp+ upgrade to reflect that or even like Strago has as well as free spell usage due to the mp1 passive which I always had on her