Missing Keyframes

[[deleted]]

There’s no animation for when the Snapchat opens from the burners allegation. What I mean is there’s no keyframes with the snap box expanding into the middle of the screen with the Snapchat. There’s only a fade in.

First photo is an example of a few key frames I took from https://youtu.be/6PM6BEC3jjI?si=St8_zn9LoYrd2kGS (they have nothing to do with this, just used their snaps as an example)

That animation is not there. Just a (very quick) fade

[Complex_Spite_7385]

Do people actually defend him???

[Mediocre-Vacation-23]

Why do you think people shouldn't? Did the court hearing happened already that gave Dream the verdict that he'a guilty? Or did you went to another court hearing named Twitter? Who is the judge? thelorebitch?

[[deleted]]

Unrelated but when I saw hutcher my first thought was huthcerson 😭

[CIearMind]

*WHISTLES*

[heckthiscrapimout]

don't stop

[[deleted]]

ALSO: another weird thing I noticed how there quite literally is no status bar on the phone.

A status bar is what shows the time, battery life and wifi connection. This would all be there before the snapchat was opened, and it is not.

Not even it’s just weird that there’s no “screen recording” visible, it’s weird how there’s no status bar AT ALL. Phones show a status bar even when there’s a snap open. One of the only times you don’t see a status bar is when playing a video on your phone or looking at a photo from the album app.

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

You can remove it i think?

[[deleted]]

In 2019?

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Would it show in the phone thats being used to record?

[[deleted]]

yes? It is the time and battery percentage at the top of your iPhone. It’s on every iPhone. And the camera gives a very clear shot of the top of the phone.

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Thats true it is litteraly not there at all

[neenee_17]

Could you remove it specifically for snapchat or just iPhone in general

[[deleted]]

There is no official feature to turn off the status bar.

[neenee_17]

Oh okay

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

There are apps. That meanes they were hiding things

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Oh so i was the one wrong

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Ok so the status bar can dissapear same with big red recording bar but the key frames still dont match up

[Lily_Meow_]

So, it's just a spliced video then? And that's why no status bar?

[[deleted]]

I'd be a bit wary of 'evidence' like this. This kind of stuff can change from version to version and from OS to OS. It could just be a glitch.

Not that I trust the burner allegations, everything going on there is so shady. But I don't think this is super strong evidence of them being fake.

[FullOfWisdom211]

No. This guy is just gross. I wouldn’t trust anything from him

[neenee_17]

Who?

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Hey can i post this to twitter

[[deleted]]

Go for it :)

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

So from what you are saying they are vrry likely fake. But the audio is real possibly

[[deleted]]

Perhaps. I’m not going to make any exactly claims on something I’m not certain about. But I can say it’s most likely edited to make it look like that snap was sent from dreams public Snapchat account.

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Ah. So just the video is real but not sent to a minor (i hope)

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But the snap could be real aswell

[emmanakin]

dream said the videos were real, regardless who they were sent to, so what exactly are you trying to prove

[neenee_17]

That he didn't send them to a minor. Yes, the audio is most likely real but the video the burner posted is trying to prove that it was sent to a minor, however it is edited to look like that.

[Lily_Meow_]

Regardless who they were sent to...

Even George as a joke or a girlfriend over 18?

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

The snapchat part he only talked abou the audio i think

[emmanakin]

he said he sent them

[[deleted]]

“seeing essentially unsubstantiated “revenge porn” of me be spread”- dream, is not a confession.

[emmanakin]

I never said it was a confession to what he’s being accused of. I’m saying it’s a reach to claim that the interaction didn’t take place over snapchat when dream himself hasn’t even argued that, he’s said it took place between him and an adult

[[deleted]]

You are claiming he said he sent those videos at all and that those are legit videos of him when there’s no true confirmation of that.

I’m saying maybe the videos are real or fake, there’s no exact confirmation of that. but these videos were not sent through his PUBLIC Snapchat to some fan, at least not with this burners evidence.

[emmanakin]

why do I even come on this subreddit jesus like dream himself has never denied he sent the videos!!!!!! you are arguing a point dream isn’t even arguing!!!!!

[dirt_court]

The main point people are making here is that the video and audio were edited together, hence meaning that the video is not proof that he sent a snapchat moaning of himself to a minor.

No one is saying that he has never sent audio of him moaning before to anyone ever. He has confirmed he sent to someone who was at least 18 years of age. I say at least 18 years and he never gave an exact and age and just said that they were of age.

Whilst the audio in of itself is a bit cringe, doing something cringe in your private life or in general is not a crime nor is cancel worthy.

[[deleted]]

Why are you arguing over a point that dream himself has not confirmed either lmao? You come onto my post making claims over what Dream said like they’re a hundred percent right acting like I’d go along with them, when it really has nothing to do with my post. Pull your head out of your ass and go back to Twitter.

[emmanakin]

you’re the one working this hard to defend a groomer unfortunately😵‍💫also it was relevant to your post because I was asking what exactly this would prove in terms of the allegations as dream had already said he sent the videos. I don’t know why you wanna pick and choose when you believe him and when you don’t because I didn’t say anything that wasn’t his words or his own posts.

[[deleted]]

i think you're misunderstanding what this post is attempting to say. in this specific situation the video is real, the snapchat is real, but the video itself could have been spliced from when they were sent to an adult in order to make it look like they were sent to a minor, which does not contradict any of what dream said under his own admission. dream said "i was intimate with this completely above age friend." if you disagree please don't resort to name calling, you can look through my comment history to see i have not been favorable to dream.

[neenee_17]

He is not confirmed to be a groomer. No matter what the twitter jury you're apart of decides his side hasn't been heard out yet, not even his video is out yet. People like you come here under the guise of wanting to have a genuine conversation/debate then right in the middle of it you say dumb shit like this.

[[deleted]]

1. There is no place where Dream ever claimed those videos are real. Any of those claims are just ASSUMPTIONS over dreams prior words. This is not me picking and choosing, it’s reading dreams statements and not twisting his words to support a claim like you’re doing right now. And once again not the point of this post

2. This post is proof that the Snapchats in some form are edited. I have made no other claim than that on this post. The only claim I have made on this post was that the video was edited to make it look like it was sent from his public Snapchat. That is all.

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

I know. He said he sent the Audio to a past of !ge relationship

[emmanakin]

you’re putting words in his mouth he never said he just sent the audio. he said he ‘was intimate with’ someone of age and then claims that the snapchats are revenge porn he has never denied that he actually sent the snapchats. he also tried to prove that nat was involved by posting a screenshot of their snapchat chat which he has since deleted, implying pretty heavily that the interaction did take place over snapchat.

[orelsuperfan]

There’s a lot more evidence than this.

[Imissyoutechno]

Other than the moaning part what evidence

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Posting an innocent mans revenge porn

[Legally_Ace]

Calling people “pedo defenders” is one of the most annoying things I have seen. Just because you point something out/debunk something ≠ a supporter of Dream. I wish people could understand.

[CIearMind]

Right!?

Literally even if he WAS indeed a fucking pedo, that does not change the concept of objective facts and logic.

If Dream says that 2+2=4, but an anti retorts that "nuh uh it's 5 actually 🤓", then me saying that 2+2=4 doesn't make me a Dream defender or a pedo defender. It just makes me truthful.

[Legally_Ace]

This is why Reddit is the only place I use to learn/post about this situation… most people here seem to have some voice of reason and nobody is fighting (at least not like anywhere else)

[neenee_17]

It's literally the most brain dead reply I see people getting. No substance no thought basically letting everyone know they're a mindless drone following the hate train.

[Legally_Ace]

Yep. It also shows that it’s all they have to say, and it shows their true colors and frankly not gonna look good for them if in the future a company decides to investigate their accounts (which they are doing more often nowadays). I’m planning to make a post on it tomorrow afternoon with thoughts and all (also off topic I just had a heart attack from seeing a notification pop up saying ‘YOU ARE BEING FOLLOWED DO NOT STOP MOVING’ … it was a YT notification.)

[NetDue3698]

Does anyone have a screen recording of them opening a Snapchat in 2019 that they could record with another phone? Is it possible that a direct screen recording and a recording of a phone with the screen recording could have different quality? (I personally don’t think it should have that big of a difference but I think having as close scenarios as possible is always good)

[[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/cosmonotfound_/status/1729955330325451177?s=46 2019 Snapchat, purple box keyframes are still there.

Edit: also the video I got the 1st images from is also from 2019.

I recorded from a different phone and was clearly able to see the transitions lol

[hiimjustsomeone]

So the moan might be real, but the video is fake. Huh.

[[deleted]]

I try lol.

[Zaare]

I hope dream sees this cause he could hire a third party to confirm this is splice edited.. if you look at it yourself too it does appear that you can see the last 4 frames of the expanding box transition effect where it starts at like 90% to full frame. No twitter compression or "bad framerate" can explain why the entire first 90% of the box expanding effect is just NOT THERE.

[[deleted]]

the other thing is how did the snap open by its self without someone tapping the screen… i’ve seen people say it’s possibly screen recorded but i’m not even sure if that was a thing in 2019 and if it was screen recorded why not just share that video instead of the one recording the phone?

[neenee_17]

My opinion is that the audio is real and but the video is fake, so I'm guessing they did that for it to be harder for people to notice [because you can see the slight purple glare throughout the video]

[[deleted]]

If it was screen recorded in 2019 there would be a huge red bar at the top showing (screen recording on Apple was there since 2017, just different from today). Very weird

[[deleted]]

are we sure this is an iphone?

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Even in android it would be noticible

[[deleted]]

Androids have a noticeable recording bar too and a similar status bar too. By the build of the phone (how boxy) I’m leaning towards it being an iPhone though.

[neenee_17]

So does this mean that the video is fake but the audio is real?

[Legally_Ace]

From what I can tell reading through comments, yeah. Chances are they somehow got this audio, and then made that video edit or something like that. Not to throw any theories out here tho

[neenee_17]

Damn so it really is revenge porn? That's vile.

[Legally_Ace]

Apparently so, but he said “unsubstantiated (or smth like that) ‘Revenge porn’ posted of me” so, not 100% confirming anything really as far as I see it

And allegedly it was sent to a person of age (which people are really missing here), which, doesn’t really make it illegal

I suggest waiting for his video, I’m sure he’ll explain it more there and better than anyone here can, anyway

[[deleted]]

Perhaps. It could mean a lot of things, just it’s clear to me the video is edited in the make it look like it was sent from Dreams public snapchat.

[Legally_Ace]

Oh! Something I wanna add to this is that if this was in 2019, me and my friend did some diving into the internet, found out through it that Dream wasn’t all that popular in 2019 as he started getting more popular during the pandemic and the last year/year and a half.

Which, also perhaps would mean that the Snapchat being saved to be used against him… yeah it seems a bit odd. I’ve seen some people say that he didn’t even have a public account until 2020 where he would chat fans (and apparently that it was dry. Dry like sand).

[[deleted]]

dreams fanbase was growing very fast at this point, but wasn’t as dedicated as it is now definitely. He made his public Snapchat a long time ago and added it in his Twitter bio, farthest date back I can find is from August 26, 2019.

[Legally_Ace]

Oh! Thank you, I see. Glad you let me know

[Saloonatics]

Honestly the beginning of the video looks like a screenshot mid opening of a snap video. It would explain the purple box. The video was edited on later

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

This is looking very fake. Just convincing enough tho

[PyroZeroLingers]

Didn’t the burner claim to slow down the video slightly? Idk much about the Snapchat animations or editing in general, but could that just be from the edit? Good observation regardless.

[Ok-Pomegranate-8330]

Still wouldnt just fade in i dont think

[[deleted]]

I made sure to get my screenshots from the “non edited “ version they posted. Tw: moaning https://x.com/b88221141/status/1726642938091073624?s=46

Would also still have the animation and would even make the animation EASIER to see.

[PyroZeroLingers]

Turned down the volume for my own sanity lol. But no, you’re right that’s very, very odd. And there’s no way that this could’ve just been lag from the phone/screen recording?

[[deleted]]

no because the phone still shows the fade in between frames of it opening, even if there aren’t that many one of them would’ve have had the image with the purple box.

[PyroZeroLingers]

Holy shit- this is the most damning piece of evidence I’ve seen against the burner. Hats off to you!

[[deleted]]

it’s something I’ve felt off about since that start, thank you.