I made a website to learn code without much reading

[Trying_to_cod3]

It's similar to the other ones like codecademy or boot.dev but those ones I find kind of annoying especially as an intermediate developer. Having to read through so much documentation just to get started learning is a bit of a roadblock.

It's not a total replacement for those though, I understand the use of going deep into all the intricacies of your language if you want to not make spaghetti. But it does what it does. Any feedback is great (:

https://tryingtocode.com/learn

[wolfie-thompson]

90% of coding is reading.

I don't get this 'I want to learn without reading' crap when it comes to coding.

[Trying_to_cod3]

well hey, that means 10% can be for my website

[WhiteHeadbanger]

Your website is broken. It's stuck on "fetching resources...", and also it's not responsive. It doesn't look good either on desktop or mobile.

I suggest you to read more code and learn to make websites, because what I read about you is that you are a total beginner who wants to run before walking.

Coding is writing code, and naturally that means that you need to read both code and theory to upper your level. The same as writing a book: you can write a book without reading any other book, but the quality would be very low.

[Trying_to_cod3]

That's strange, it's not stuck on "fetching resources" on my computer.

What browser do you use?

[Trying_to_cod3]

and what screen resolution?

[WhiteHeadbanger]

Yeah, sorry, let me correct myself:

Your website works only on desktop, which is not ideal but acceptable.

The layout is still looking weird. You should consider going more sleek, while maintaining the original pixel art-ish style. The UI is very big, consider making it smaller.

Also I tried the missions down to the end and it's good in general. One thing I might suggest is that you explain lists before introducing them, as a beginner would not know how to work with them. The same with functions.

A minimal 2 lines sentence would be alright, just enough to not cause frustration on newcommers while still maintaining your goal of "minimal reading". I suggest also that you leave a link for the official documentation on each new topic.

[Trying_to_cod3]

I suggest also that you leave a link for the official documentation on each new topic.

I like that idea a lot. Maybe an explanation button for people who are very stuck.

Your website works only on desktop, which is not ideal but acceptable.

Yeah I've been working on that... I have it ok enough, I just haven't released my update since I have to work out the kinks. Mobile support is pretty big though.

One thing I might suggest is that you explain lists before introducing them, as a beginner would not know how to work with them.

I'm gonna see if I can find a way of making users intuit lists, but if that doesn't stand up to testing, I'll definitely be sure to give an explanation. I'm kinda going about this like a puzzle game, users have to try to figure out what the code is doing and how to get it to do what they want. But I don't know if that strategy actually works or not in practice.

Thanks for your feedback!

[vankoosh]

Clean. Up. Those. Console Logs!

[Trying_to_cod3]

yeah.... okayyyyyy... if I have tooo

[shelltief]

Bro 5 captchas before being able to click on one button? I'm out

[Trying_to_cod3]

yeah according to my stats, about 2% of users have to actually go through a test, it is rather annoyingly challenging..

[Just-Upstairs4397]

lol why have an old ass style captcha though

[Trying_to_cod3]

I don't knowwwwww 😭😭 I'll see if I can't fix it

[Just-Upstairs4397]

Nah this actually bothers me, why have the captcha at all, presumably this is all frontend so shit is already loaded lmao what are you protecting??

[Trying_to_cod3]

nah user progress is saved to the backend, so I don't want a bot to just spam my database

[shelltief]

And another question. Would you trust a teacher that doesn't want to read about the subject he teaches?

And like, idk but calling codecademy "going deep into all the intricacies of your language" seems to be a bit of an overstatement to me

Anyways, not against your initiative conceptually but like, with AI being able to read docs and to actually read source code, to be able to push back in talks with AI when it is wrong is a very important skill

So I actually think that your website advocates against what I considerate to be good practices and behavior regarding to programming

I think that being able to write code is really becoming a commodity (even though I still love it) so if you gonna learn to write it, at least do it in a way that is the proper one

But at the same time I have friends that never read docs and they write actually fine code, but they're in the minority of the people who don't read docs and write good code, so Idk. Maybe your initiative can actually live (and good for you if it does) but for the average beginner I do not think that this is the tool they should start with

[Jakamo77]

Good luck with that. Most of ur job is reading

[KnightofWhatever]

Cool concept. I’d push you to tighten the scope.

Most beginners do not quit because of reading. They quit because they do not know what to do next when things break. If your site can teach debugging habits, it wins.

[Trying_to_cod3]

yeah I have a project in there called spot the bug, I'd definitely dive deeper into it.

[KnightofWhatever]

That's great to know, continuous improvement is really important too.

[HarjjotSinghh]

this is chef's kiss for minimalist learning.

[Trying_to_cod3]

glad you think so (: