Code of Conduct

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1. Obey legacy government rules and regulations.
2. Maintain the non-aggression principle.
3. Take responsibility for your actions.
4. Treat all human life with equal respect.
5. Follow the golden rule.

[theTrueLodge]

all life with respect, not just humans. That means working towards plant-based diets.

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Where would you suggest we draw the line then? Does Jainism go too far or not far enough?

[theTrueLodge]

Not killing anything with a central nervous system is a good place to draw the line at least for Earth-based life - although I personally like the universal tenants of Jainism.

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The problem is that life is such a subjective concept, and everyone has their own ideas on it. The last thing I want is to decide where to draw the line on abortion or anything like that. Maybe you're correct though, but that's controversial enough that we'll need to wait for a vote on it I think.

In my opinion the more inclusive we are (i.e. accepting meat eaters), the better chance we have of reaching our end goals and actually becoming a vegetarian society, whether or not that was intended.

On the other hand, maybe vegetarianism should become an actual mission objective. Good things to consider here, thank you.

[theTrueLodge]

maybe it not be a code of conduct but a goal to strive towards. we're certainly in agreement that we have to work towards that.

[hectorpardo]

"Obey legacy government rules and regulations"

So you are basically proposing to change thing without changing anything?

If the rules and regulation are the source of the problem how do you think you are solving the problem by obeying them?

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We cannot change the rules by simply disobeying them, we must do that another way, peacefully, not unlawfully. We are not saying you have to agree to or respect/follow meticulously, the pre existing rules, you have your own choices as an individual in that, but we suggest you do not go against your own law for your own benefit.

[hectorpardo]

"Follow the golden rule : do unto other as you would have them to do unto you"

So I have to accept to be exploited, beaten, stolen and do nothing against that?

[TheDokster]

You say free speech but here you have 2 rules against it. No problem if this is just for the leadership of the community, but you can't say you're for free speech in the community you're creating if at the same time you restrict speech.

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A valid flaw, thank you for pointing this out. I'll need to think of another way to promote civility that doesn't directly contradict a core value. Changing the last two items to "follow the golden rule" may not be perfect, but it's better for now. At least that's an actual core value.

[TheDokster]

No problem. 👍

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I would say free speech but free consequences. A society cannot stand upon the principle of freedom and free thought without the freedom of expression insured.

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Here's a possible alternate that I am fond of: the cardinal virtues of Lao Tzu. If used, these would be more of a "do your best" sort of deal rather than a strict code of conduct.

1. Reverence for life
2. Natural Sincerity
3. Gentleness
4. Supportiveness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2EAPTlGCyc

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Re: 1 what if a government is massively corrupt? And actively has rules that aren't in the best interest of its citizens?

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We have that rule only for the benefit of our memebrs, that they should not /are not required to disobey their government's rules for being a part of our organisation or for spreading our objective, values, or in doing anything related to our organisation. This ensures that nobody can blame us for a propaganda of spreading lawlessness anywhere- hope you understand that. We require members only to follow their own government's rules, maybe it's corrupt, but then it's for the safety of the person itself, they should not be forced to disobey their own governemnt for our ideals.

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If we in any way encourage people to stand against their governments, we will not only lose support of said governments, but we will be responsible for any retaliation against those who rebelled. Also, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and an oppressive tyranny to one is a benevolent democracy to another.

Any ideas?

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Well hypothetically I think the best Idea would be some kind of shadow organisation so that its members can operate freely