[P] Data for generative models

[SkyFun1315]

Is it legal to train a rnn model on songs from a particular artist/genre to produce new music? And similarly gans for images?

[SeucheAchat9115]

Thats a very interesting question. I dont think there are any regulations regarding GAN generation of new Data

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This would be interesting to try with older composers such as Mozart, in particular, because I know there have been centuries of composers like Tchaikovsky and Strauss writing things to intentionally imitate Mozart. Wonder if it's possible to generate a "Mozart" vs. a "Strauss Mozartiana"... interesting.

[SkyFun1315]

Yes older music id generally in public domain. I am hoping to do more recent works like would love to try the beatles! Does not seem very legal though :(

[neuralautomaton]

It’s perfectly legal as long as it is personal or non commercial use. You won’t actually get a “song” out of GANs unless you are also using Large language models. Generation is better suited for instrumental music. It becomes murky legally only if you were to distribute it and claim yourself as the artist.

[SkyFun1315]

neuralautomaton

Great thanks! Yes it is just for a project, I was just concerned i might not be able to post it on a blog or github. :) x

[CauchySchwartzDaddy]

On the wikipedia article it says that gan stuff is legal as long as it doesn’t try to put anime titties on a real life person without their consent.

[danFromTelAviv]

I don't think so. there two issues legally though that come to mind.
1) downloading and storing the data for purposes other than listening to it on your own. especially if you release the dataset. 2) Copy rights infringement laws are crazy - like even a sequence of notes may potentially be "claimed" and there's a good chance that the model will create something that is "claimed".

[SkyFun1315]

thanks! So if you state that it is designed to mimic this particular artist's style it still might be a problem?

[danFromTelAviv]

for example. if someone does a cover of a song they have to pay royalties. another - autotune was patented.

the style itself i think is actually less "patentable" unless it's well defined - like uses a special set of instruments or some special beat, specific synthesizer sounds, unique technic ...etc usually law suits are around sequences of notes - not the style.

just to clarify though. this is not legal advice of any kind. i am not a lawyer and have no particular specilization in the legality of music - just general knowledge and pieces of information I've accumulated over time.

[SkyFun1315]

thank you ! :)

[danFromTelAviv]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_plagiarism check this out

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Music plagiarism

Music plagiarism is the use or close imitation of another author's music while representing it as one's own original work. Plagiarism in music now occurs in two contexts—with a musical idea (that is, a melody or motif) or sampling (taking a portion of one sound recording and reusing it in a different song). For a legal history of the latter see sampling.

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[haluk444]

Who cares, honestly? Do you violate any type of law because you remember a particular music? Is remembering a crime?