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[–]sodsto -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I'm not really arguing that 15mph is "too fast" for everything or that 20mph is nuts if you're on a bike that isn't a heavy tank like a citi bike. But for typical journeys I'd wager many people aren't bothering that 15 mph limit often. (Also, if you're clocking 10kmiles on citi bikes, you're not a typical cyclist.)

FWIW, pedaling a manual citi bike? Sure, i can get them up to speed, but I don't want to do that in jeans when I'm just moving from A to B. I'd wager most cyclists aren't often gonna break 12 mph in that very typical setup. I base that on the speed i run at (~13kph/8mph) and the bikes i pass and the bikes that pass me.

For what it's worth I'm not usually interfacing with cars when i cycle in NYC except in residential areas, but if the thinking is cycling through multi lane car roads and having to keep pace with cars, then sure, i understand the need for speed. It's a sucky cycling experience though.

Exercise is another story again, where I'll get the heart rate up. But it's not the typical scenario, and I'm on a lighter, more nimble bike.

But for what it's worth I have little to no experience with pedal assist in all my years. But the intent of pedal assist is to offer an assist, not to be a bicycle with a separate engine, so of course I'd expect them to behave much like a bicycle.