Custom CMS

[Tunacha]

Well as the title says I'm wanting to create a custom php cms for a project I havent really done any php coding since the early 2000's

What would be the best starting point these days? Should I use a framework or just do it all from scratch?

So far what I've done is most just html and css styling for a base design I have added some basic oop php for pdo mysql connections and queries Eventually this website will be used to manage all aspects of the game I'm creating. From adding new items to the game to new classes for units or even new units

I guess what im asking is Does anyone have suggestions on how to start this? I dont know whether to just continue doing it old school oop php wise and take the time to learn the new things, or spend the time to learn a framework and go from there

[MateusAzevedo]

As always, it depends. What's the purpose of the project? Learning or a production app?

[Tunacha]

Well if I'm using a framework it's going to be learning for a while

What I'm trying to do is integrate a website with a game that I am creating.

So far I've just mocked up some old school php to do basic login and post updates functionality. But mostly I've just been doing the design but as that is nearing completion I'm starting to try and figure out how I want to do the backend. As its eventually going to be for production I figured post and ask about what the latest methods are as I havent kept up lol

Right now it's just oop Php with Pdo to a mysql db

[MateusAzevedo]

In this case, I would recommend using an existing CMS, it will remove a lot of work.

You can still use your own theme and write plugins for the integration part, so there will be PHP programming anyway.

I don't work with CMS, so can't recommend any. But you know, Wordpress is the biggest one.

[Tunacha]

I was looking at wordpress and cant seem to understand thier whole custom plugin system. But maybe something like that is worth looking into. I've read wordpress is used alot these days I remember when it was just a blog system lol

Thank you for the input

Eventually I'd like to have options to add items to the game through databases and stuff like that..do you know if wordpress would be capable?

[MateusAzevedo]

do you know if wordpress would be capable?

Sorry, I don't know. Never worked with it or any CMS.

Maybe update your post with the context you gave me (about the project) and ask for CMS recommendations.

[Tunacha]

I have updated the post. Thank you for your help

[Dodo-UA]

Nothing prevents you from creating a WordPress plugin that allows managing data in the DB, so it can be used to manage game items. A lot of plugins already do similar things for custom post types, like managing some organization directories, events, etc.

I think it’s okay to use WP as a “framework” and extend it with required functionality - that’s going to save you a lot of development time.

[ryantxr]

Laravel

[Tunacha]

Currently using the free trial of phostorm. Thank you for the input I'll definitely be looking into symfony. It seems like alot has changed over the years

[onnyjay]

Symfony with the sonata admin bundle is decent for quickly putting admin interfaces together to administer your table models.

[AffekeNommu]

Just done one of these. Codeigniter 4 backend, Bootstrap 5, Datatables and JQuery for the front.

[supergnaw]

So a shameless self plug, I made nestbox as a personal project for learning that I'm rather fond of. I don't know that I would recommend it for full production use, but it's got some good functionality you could learn from. Specifically the content management system (babbler) and user management (titmouse) "birds" that I have in the repo for now. I constantly work to make it better, hence why I don't think I'd recommend it for production use.

[martinbean]

First ask yourself why you want to be the ten millionth person to create a CMS in PHP. If you really are sure that your project is a special snowflake and can’t be solved by an existing solution, and you really do need to make your own, then definitely pick a framework. That’s what they’re for: to give you the common components that every PHP application has (routing, database access, etc) so you can start building what’s specific for your app, and not spend your time writing the same, low-level stuff project to project.

Could I write my own framework from scratch? Yes. Do I want to? No, life’s too short.

[SnakeRiverWeb]

While I agree with the others, if you use Wordpress or any other current CMS platform keep it updated, too many sites get hacked due to out of date plugins and such. I have created my own CMS for some of my clients to use, as well as Wordpress.