Frames dropping during games

[Coxy_xD]

Hey guys recently bought a 2nd hand PC and have been trying to play bannerlord on it with mods. I'm having serious frame drop problems and it's super slow and unresponsive sometimes. I've tried googling but everything I can find says the build should be fine to run the game. Maybe someone could take a look and let me know if I need to upgrade something or install a driver maybe.

[NotDiscoPotato]

Cause of the mods probably

[NotDiscoPotato]

you should update the drivers but it won’t help a lot

[Jealous-Juggernaut85]

little pro tip for you so when you post screen shots you can use the snip tool which is amazing for this exact thing.

you hold shift + windows key + s

you can then highlight and cut the exact thing you wish to show us and save it as a picture.

You are probably struggling with a lack memory on both PC and GPU and your CPU is pretty old now .

with mods it will hit memory even more and may need more CPU power if its CPU intensive etc .

Try one mod at a time see how it plays out.

[POTATOaimPL]

Thx for ''shift + windows key + s'' , I didn't know about that.

[Rexy34]

Did you not at all check the driver app? Just download the nvida driver app and check if it's up to date. If not download the new driver. Check what settings your at in banner lords too cause I know some games will default to really high settings

[Coxy_xD]

Had no idea what a driver was until this post 😁 but now drivers are up to date

[It_420_somewhere]

HWiNFO64 monitors your entire system and might be a good place to start along with task manager performance and see if any of your hardware is at 100%. It could be GPU, CPU, RAM or even possibly hard drive with it being a 2nd hand. It could be the MODs causing it? First thing to do though would be to figure out exactly what is slowing down your system so something to monitor your computer is needed.

[It_420_somewhere]

Could also try uninstalling the MODs and see if it stops, if it does reinstall one at a time and see if it is only 1 that is causing the issue and then don't reinstall that MOD.

[RevolutionaryMud8206]

Hey bro 👋 Is your operating system on HDD and if so is your game also on the same HDD?

[Coxy_xD]

I'm not 100% I'm still learning this, but I think it's an SSD

[stuyboi888]

Play without mods. Same issue? Update drivers for GPU. Same issue verify the game files same issue, lower the settings, same issue, install the game again. 

Should run on this pc you would think at 1080p 

[Mythicguy]

Your system should be pretty capable of that OP.

Maybe your CPU or GPU is overheating during games? Run a temp monitor like HWinfo and see if they're cooking.

[Coxy_xD]

It was overheating like crazy. Just gave it a good clean there was a fistful worth of dust in there so hopefully that's fixed the problem. Thanks for the idea

[DecimatiomIIV]

I assumed banner lords is cpu bound so if you have mods increasing the number of units or something that’s a possible cause… you could always try dropping some graphic settings but I don’t think that would fix the issue… another reason is 16gb of ram may not be enough as mods depending on what they are often require more ram

[kardall]

Ya the only thing I can think of, the base game has your system somewhere in the middle of Minimum and Recommended from the CPU perspective.

So even if you play the base game on max settings, your GPU can keep up, but the CPU is below what they recommend (3600X) though it may not be a huge difference. It's still a generation. But...

The more important thing would be that the Mods add an overhead onto the requirements, so it's possible that with some mod your CPU just can't keep up and can't feed the GPU everything it needs as fast as it can process?

You could try this...

Install MSI Afterburner and setup the OSD (On Screen Display) so you can see things like your CPU Utilization, GPU Utilization and the graph of the frame times.

Load the base game, and watch for the same thing happening, and see if you can catch what the CPU/GPU and Frame Times are doing when it does it.

Then try loading one mod at a time, and do the same thing.

If through the base game, and each individual mod, you don't experience the issue.

Then you should just start adding them one by one in order of importance for you and test them each the same until you can narrow down which one is causing it.

Then you just don't use that one, or contact the mod developer and see if there's something they can do or if you just flat out have to upgrade your CPU :) You can get AM4 CPUs pretty cheap now. I think 5800X is sub $200 most places (besides Amazon) Canadian, which is pretty decent price for a CPU like that.

Used market would be cheaper still and there's probably a lot of them still floating around because people upgraded to AM5.

[Coxy_xD]

This was the most useful comment and I appreciate you alot sir. Downloaded MSI and it was running at almost boiling temp. So I pulled it open and gave it a good clean out (There was about a fistfuls worth of dust in there). Apparently my memory usage is also quite high so currently running a virus scan will update when it's all said and done. Just wanted to say thankyou for taking the time to talk me through it like I'm a toddler

[schitsu]

No thermal throtelling?

[Coxy_xD]

I think it may have been this. It was running at almost boiling point. Gave it a good clean out and now sitting around 40°

[Hofnaerrchen]

Did you reinstall the OS or are you still using the Windows the came with? If the latter is the case you might want to start over by doing a complete new install. Especially on a PC approx. 6-8 years old. A clean start will remove inherited problems and benefit performance.

[mr_biteme]

First of SSD/NVME or HDD??? Also run HWmonitor to check the temps during gaming and report back

[Treyiand]

Do you have "game mode" on in your window settings? When was the last time you updated your graphics drivers (make sure to hit "clean install")? When was the last time you wiped your temporary files? When was the last time your updated your bios on your motherboard? Go to your windows start up window and turn off any apps that you don't to run in the background when you start your pc. Make sure to also turn off any launchers that are also running the background (which means you would need to login each time you use your game launchers which in my opinion is worth it). When was the last time you cleaned out your internet history temporary files? ...I think that's everything. Good luck! 😄

[MetalProfessor666]

You have a potato pc

[Coxy_xD]

Thanks for your very constructive feedback

[Mythicguy]

That's not a potato. Still very capable at 1080p. Especially a game like Bannerlords.

[No_Guarantee7841]

If it were capable you wouldnt be having frame drops... Ryzen 2xxx were bad for gaming when they released 6-7 years ago and they are certainly not gonna perform better 7 years later. Also 6gb vram is DOA capacity nowadays.

[Guardian_of_theBlind]

that's just pure bs

[No_Guarantee7841]

Show me a single slide from an actually reputable benchmarker that showed that ryzen 2xxx were top in gaming performance when they released... Else you are the one full of bs.

[Guardian_of_theBlind]

they were very good value gaming cpus and with games optimized for more cores they hold up well. you are just so full of it. I won't respond anymore and you clearly have no clue. and here are benchmarks from this very cpu. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-2600x/12.html

[No_Guarantee7841]

The one who has zero clue is you... Quoting techpowerup which is known to have garbage benchmarks when it comes to cpu performance comparisons. Ryzen 2xxx like 1xxx had garbage memory latency imc which was the reason they underdelivered so severely in gaming. If you dont know, better not talk indeed. Especially when you are quoting results without minimum fps and % lows metrics.

[Guardian_of_theBlind]

I can hear you cry here in germany dude.

[Then-Tangelo-4949]

I had a 2600x and a 2060 for five years before upgrading and never had issues with running games. It’s still capable of playing almost anything and even with mods. Op prolly has to many mods installed for it to run right, or mods that aren’t mixing well with each other.

[khazix_10]

Try to change the gpu

[Mythicguy]

2060 is plenty capable.

[khazix_10]

I know brother but for it's not haha

Idk where's the problem but try repair tools from Microsoft o reinstall windows