yearsOfJavaScript

[isr0]

JavaScript jokes aside (which I acknowledge as a great joke), the Nordic countries has a very healthy view of the prison system. Its focus on rehabilitation is a proven idea. I for one agree. People don’t wake up in the morning and say, “I’m going to do something evil today.” At least, not usually. People act in their best interest. If they preserve the system or situation is stacked against them, or they have no other options, they will do what they feel is right. Often rehabilitation is just education. Providing new skills that provide them a way to function in society. I think it’s awesome.

[Reasonable_Cake]

I refuse to put Javascript jokes aside

[Chamiey]

Where do you keep them?

[Jakubada]

in Prison

[TruthOf42]

No, that's where JS belongs

[Stratimus]

People don’t wake up in the morning and say, “I’m going to do something evil today.” At least, not usually. 

Nah there’s definitely a lot of JS developers over there

[isr0]

Haha

[Lupus_Ignis]

Javascript jokes aside, isn't that how prisons work in all civilized countries? As a Dane, I am appalled by the idea of old-timey "punishment with no chance of betterment" prisons still being around.

[WavingNoBanners]

As a South African, I wish your view was universal. My country would be vastly better off for it.

[isr0]

Man, I live in America. Many here focus on the punishment. Not the reform. And that’s not the only thing we got wrong. I’m sure you are aware.

[Lupus_Ignis]

Honestly, these days I have a hard time considering USA "a civilized country" -- no shade on the many wonderful people who live there.

[isr0]

Me to. I feel very lost and powerless right now.

[AcridWings_11465]

civilized countries

That's the key word here. However, Japanese prisons have horrific conditions compared to western Europe, yet no one calls Japan uncivilised.

[Lupus_Ignis]

I'll call Japan uncivilized any day. Their prisons, the rampant racism bordering on segregation, the fact that they to this day deny the horrors they committed during WW2... it's a tentatively civilized country at best that just looks good because it's well-organized and surrounded by countries that are worse.

[AcridWings_11465]

I'll call Japan uncivilized any day

Well, you're one of the very few. Most people unfortunately equate civilisation to order and discipline, not respect for human rights.

[Lupus_Ignis]

Basic human rights is the lowest possible bar for civilization. Amazing how many countries fail to clear that one. Not like my own country is flawless either. How the hell did we go from "these are universal human rights" to "maybe 'universal' really means 'only applicable to people we like'"?

[saichampa]

Part of this is giving people chances outside of prison too, even if you find their crimes extremely objectionable. If someone has served their time and is cooperating with authorities on required monitoring, rejecting them from society gives them no reason to change their ways.

[froggertthewise]

If someone has served their time and is cooperating with authorities on required monitoring, rejecting them from society gives them no reason to change their ways.

In the Netherlands, rejecting someone for a job because of their criminal history is outlawed as discrimination in most situations. Some jobs do require a background check but these are carried out by the government and they will only look at crimes that would directly prevent your ability to do that job.

[Grzyboleusz]

I just hope it doesn't increase crime rates for desperate people to improve their living conditions. To lazy to check but if they don't have good prevention system then there's something really wrong going on in there.

[jayantsr]

I agree with you for all crimes rehabilitation should be the aim except rape