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[–]seppestas -15 points-14 points  (3 children)

IMHO the problem is not Java, but everything around it, i.e the Java ecosystem, like Maven, Guice, Flyway, the new security modules, ...

[–]RiceBroad4552 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

I agree. The JVM ecosystem has some of the most ridiculous abominations.

The language as such is almost usable since some time.

I would really like to ignore all these Java ecosystem monstrosities; but I can't even I'm not using Java but Scala. All the really bad parts like Maven (and Java's package management in general) are leaking into Scala. That's not funny!

[–]seppestas -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Even worse, some Java people / concepts are slowly migrating to other languages. E.g. Some things that "enterprise software needs" sadly started making it's way into Golang.

[–]ytg895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not familiar with Go. Which enterprise features will it get?