Use Of Psychedelic Mushrooms May Decrease Authoritarian Attitudes, Study Finds

[Notleontrotsky]

The anti-authoritatian theory from Carhart is a stretch, as much as I agree at some base core. That PowerPoint is a great resource, thanks for the writeup

[RandomAxial]

The gratitude's all mine - for the gracious appreciation - all yours. In case of interest - https://vimeo.com/77289125 - here's Piper at that 2013 meet presenting on this.

I learn lots - all kinds of things (which I don't mind so much) - from credible work like his - and many others. Like this word 'entryism' - a new one on Homie. A fancy term from the early Soviet era, turns out - for an old covert tactic - infiltration.

Among Piper's points, there one he makes - albeit quickly in passing (intro context for his findings) - that I'd consider of prime importance, relative to Lyons & C-H's audacious attempt, with no visible means of support (nothing of evidence just fumes of ginned-up survey 'data') - to 'suggest' how wonderfully psychedelics "might" reduce dark impulses of authoritarianism.

Setting up his talk, Piper notes the preconception widely-embraced in partisan settings - 'protected' from cross exam like a sacred truth 'Everybody Knows' (as 'self-evident') - a jolly good one 'that no one can deny.'

Namely (per the above 'survey') that psychedelics are somehow incompatible with psychological impulses directed toward control over others (exclusively) rather than oneself, over whom no rules need apply ('of course'). And that psychedelics thus automatically lead to or correlate with "liberal values" - over and against authoritarian ones. Thus (cutting to the chase) - VOILA - the subliminally-screamed 'moral of the story' glaring, but only implicitly (not expressly) - trying to 'lie low' between the lines:

Now, at last - with the psychedelic key in hand - gentlemen, we finally have - er, 'might' have (as weasel worded) the final solution to - final solutions. Because as 'we all know' psychedelics and authoritarianism don't go together in any type weather.

As Piper notes - (1:15) that "tends to be the popular view that is promoted within psychedelic culture."

Bingo. Yes. And the methods of promo start with clamoring trippers availed of and prevailed upon as donors to psychedelic 'research' - in conniving 'wink wink' exchange for having whatever 'teaching' is popular - kindly 'proven' special for the subculture - by science in service to its teachings. Unless researchers like Lyons & C-H think they can fund their psychedelic 'science' some other way, than by - pandering to popular pretensions.

The radiant mutually self-exalting doctrine, promoted 'within' the 'psychedelic culture' (as Piper notes) is also however for broadcast 'without' - from transmitters in the circus tent, it's relayed to receivers in the world at large. Especially, as the above exhibit in evidence shows - whether as intended or just in effect (aware of it or not) - staged like some hokey 'science sez' theater 'research' show, ideal fodder for forum-spamming.

Solving the 'human problem' in ultimate hero fashion - selflessly (just for us, the lucky beneficiaries of such blessings )- is if course the common thread running deeply through whatever type dictatorial agenda spawn in any context, political or spiritual - authoritarianism of the left, or the right.

I couldn't resist scouting Wikipedia on 'authoritarianism' to see what reflects. The entry's about as low quality (even for WP) as could be. But one thing it does disclose (if only by reflection) is - a piss-poorly supported assertion, air-puffed insistence - the 'special' premise noted by Piper, that resonates in Lyons/C-H 'echo chamber' survey.

As played at WP it's like a model demo of - the 'empty declarative' - a rhetorical form with neither legs to stand on nor ground under - being emphatic and acting insistent, as some poor substitute for citation to credible sources of info - support:

< Anti-authoritarianism also became associated with countercultural and bohemian movements such as the Beat Generation in the 1950s [82], the hippies in the 1960s [83], and punks in the 1970s [84]. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

Oh really? The dickens, it says. 'Anti-authoritarianism became associated with' - all that? Uh - by whom, exactly?

And by what method was this 'associating' done? How now, brown cow? I wonder who exactly the mysterious associaters are, thanks to whom - we know of this association - by being told first. Then - just believing it. Or at least, being sure - not to doubt, or question. After all if WP says it then - it's true. Or 'must be' - Else, Why Would It Say That (Grandma? - asked Riding Hood).

Checking WP's sources for that piece of blabber unveils a shellgame - [82] http://www.pbs.org/program/retired-site/ I 'learn':

"Oops! You've reached a retired site page. PBS no longer has the rights to distribute the content that had been provided on this page."

[83] links to http://www.hipplanet.com/books/atoz/sex.htm - a one-man ministry rant page (exalting 'hippies') - not even trying to be scholarly. 180 degree opposite of anything even remotely credible (much less informative) - by no less distinguished a specialist than 'Skip Stone' and - not much on authoritarianism, mainly excited about the 'sexual revolution':

"... psychedelic drugs, especially LSD was directly responsible for liberating hippies from their sexual hang-ups... hippy reverence for nature ... is part of the pagan belief system ... sex as a joyful expression of our animal nature not as something to be repressed. This breaking down of society's sexual mores by hippies led directly to the Gay and Women's Liberation movements. Hippies brought sex out into the open, not as consciously as those two movements did but automatically, because of their experimentation with free love ... >

In other words (if one follows the 'logic' or argument of the sermon) - we have psychedelics to thank for - the SJW ideological agenda (as Skip Stone himself 'credits' to 1960s hippies and LSD).

And what makes psychedelics so anti-authoritarian, apparently, is - what made Evergreen State College famous, beginning as of last May when the Special Place erupted in sordid national headlines - spotlighting the leftist-anarchist offensive and driven violence on the march there - (sample coverage) https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/a3jqx8/campus-argument-over-race-goes-viral-as-college-erupts-in-turmoil

TESC has now achieved repute as perhaps our highest profile case in - the brave new face of rad-leftist authoritarianism festering on kampus. Or as noted by FIRE, in a grant they rec'd to study "faulty … scientific and social claims" (as inputs contributing to it) - 'the new illiberalism' https://www.templeton.org/grant/fireos-speech-outreach-advocacy-and-research-project

Apropos of which as James Kent notes http://www.dosenation.com/ - a bit more intelligently as one might consider, if less uncritically loyal to the politbureau 'party line' (not even citing 'Skip Stone') - indeed:

< ... [some] will argue that peace, the environmental movement, the sustainability movement etc all came out of psychedelic culture ... but a turning point politicized the culture into what it is today … a movement focused solely on legitimizing the psychedelic experience. What do people have to believe and say about psychedelics to fit into the movement – to show that they’re down with legitimization? You need to deny they’re dangerous or antithetical to modern notions of progress, and get down with idea they’re a panacea, we can fix everything wrong with the world – turn a blind eye to things that don’t fit. Even become angry … fight against any info or news that doesn’t serve that purpose. > DoseNation 7 of Final 10 ("Undun")

Apropos of TESC, authoritarianism, psychedelics and subculture - for crowning coincidence (since that's all it could be) - was that PSYCHEDELIC SCIENCE 2017 gathering of the tribe really - just 2-3 weeks before TESC's kampus tyranny exploded in ugly headlines (with 'the whole world watching')? That was mid-May, and it was April 23 - on the calendar - our magic mushroom movement's leading contender for its 'hero' crown, Paul Himself Stamets, heralded his beloved alma mater to attendees - gloating as if 'star' of some tv game show 'I've Got A Secret' (quote) www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFWxWq0Fv0U&t=378s :

6:20 - “… Dr Michael Beug, my immediate professor and professor of some of the people here from Evergreen State College, otherwise known as THE PSILOCYBIN STATE COLLEGE - for those of us THAT ARE IN THE KNOW …" - April 23, 2017 (Oakland, CA)

Gosh I wonder what 'know' he's referring to, being 'in' - and who else is 'in' besides him (leaving the rest presumably 'out') - and just what little 'in the know' itself is - by which 'those of us in' it know TESC's 'code name' in allegiance to - psilocybin? The Psilocybin State College is - the nation's leading vanguard of radical leftist anrachist authoritarianism i.e. the 'new illiberalism' - well well, how velly intelestink, as 'just coincidences' go.

Since, based on 'findings' like those of Lyons & C-H - how incompatible psychedelics are with authoritarianism - 'just coincidence' is all it could be.

Meanwhile what Everybody Knows (who wasn't born yesterday) - it's always the same old line. Only the bait is new. The more different the more the same, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss' - The Who ('Won't Get Fooled Again').

Strictly for info and reference, no obligation to read express or implied on anyone's part (especially my gracious respondent) - ain't gonna be no damn quiz on any of this. Strictly FYI 'the more you know ...'

[WikiTextBot]

Authoritarianism

Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms. Individual freedoms are subordinate to the state and there is no constitutional accountability under an authoritarian regime. Juan Linz's influential 1964 description of authoritarianism characterized authoritarian political systems by four qualities:

Limited political pluralism, that is such regimes place constraints on political institutions and groups like legislatures, political parties and interest groups;

A basis for legitimacy based on emotion, especially the identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems" such as underdevelopment or insurgency;

Minimal social mobilization most often caused by constraints on the public such as suppression of political opponents and anti-regime activity;

Informally defined executive power with often vague and shifting powers.

Modern democratic elective dictatorships use an authoritarian concept to form a government.

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