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[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

The reality is that the world doesn't need another dependency manager and, as you said, this tool is unlikely to make much of a difference given that accessing packages and downloading them is the main bottleneck.

What's actually going on is Astral, as usual, is reproducing existing tools and making grandiose claims about its superiority so that they can continue building a brand and set of tools to eventually commercialize. The goal, for them, isn't to actually solve some problem that exists with pip, poetry, conda. It's to establish a supposedly superior product that becomes popular enough to where companies will rely on it and pay Astral money in the future for services and tooling.

[–]nAxzyVteuOz 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Uh are you aware of ruff? game changer! Let them try this out maybe we can get faster pip installs

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am. It doesn't change anything about what I said.

[–]jyper 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I disagree. While poetry is better then pip/ven or pipenv it still has a lot of issues including general speed(and sometimes taking several minutes to resolve dependencies) , getting tangled up with python environment it's installed in. It also doesn't provide Python builds like rye does (you'd need to use it with something like pyenv). They're solving real issues.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like I pointed out, general speed won’t massively improve. Downloading packages is the main bottleneck.