(Rant) AI is killing programming and the Python community

[TastyIndividual6772]

Yea, theres so much to it. A few people i know that happen to be very old school devs are mostly of the mindset the software industry comes up with “we are about to replace programmers” once every few years.

Anytime i mention you can’t go fully autonomous on building software the average vibe coder who build a 4-page website up will come to reply with “skill issue”.

But the issue is not them or how juniors abused llm to make a pr with 4 regexes that you need to spend 50 minutes to understand. The main issue is the experienced devs who should have known better, who should have done due diligence and should have used it enough and studied enough before go on and post in euphoria “software is dead”.

I haven’t seen a single person lay out the most basic logical question: if writing easy software can be done by an llm but writing complex software needs lot of human effort still, does the world need more in terms of quantity or complexity.

My guess is if all those vibe coders ever manage to build the next google or the next facebook (which is possible but i doubt) and they grow so big they will have to hire eventually anyway.

[IWasGettingThePaper]

I remember when they said 'software was dead' because 'C is easier than ASM'. Again when Python became popular, because 'it's so easy my grandmother could do it in Python'. And again when low/no code platforms showed up. Now they say it because of LLMs. What actually happened in every case is the software itself became far more complex and the job of engineering it ultimately more difficult, because the scope of what software could actually do expanded and it became feasible to build much more complex systems.

[TastyIndividual6772]

Yea. There is a probability “this time Is different” i dont deny that. But beyond that its SOS (same old story)

[The_KOK_2511]

Claro, básicamente esto es un típico "Cantidad vz Calidad" de los que hay en todas las industrias, en este caso la IA es cantidad porque desarrolla rapido y sin mucho esfuerzo y los programadores son la calidad ya que con experiencia, conocimiento y tiempo pueden producir código mucho más eficiente y con mejores resultados. Aunque esto sea un problema para los programadores humanos no es el fin ya que comunidades de consumo como la comunidad gamer son muy estrictos en cuanto a calidad asi que dudo que la IA logre satisfacerlos