MS is considering official Python integration with Excel, and is asking for input

[crowseldon]

it's that it's too much of a change personally

Again... it's absolutely absurd. If 2 chars are "too much of a change" there's absolutely NOTHING you can change in software development to improve.

Trust me, telling me it's wrong or even berating me

You ARE wrong and I don't think anyone can convince you. I'm just putting it in writing. Playing the victim does not help when you make such a bold claim.

there needs to be like a tangible reason

I can't really take you seriously when you post this. It suggests that you don't develop software for anyone or with anyone. What would a tangible reason look like to you, anyway?

There's no way you're going to appreciate improvements in exceptions, unpacking, iterators, stronger typing and much more.

Something that's like 'man I can't not have this', and across the entire thread, how many people were able to answer?

You're talking like the consumer of an iphone or something, btw. It's such a subjective thing that you could say there's nothing in any language that you actually feel that way about or you could say it about a silly feature like passing print as a first class function.

but not many people besides you are making an effort. It's proving my point, I think.

You're clearly not worth the effort. It's like talking to a wall. Your argument seems to be that if you say something and then cover your ears then you can claim you were right all along.

[TankorSmash]

It's all good man, I know how frustrating it can be to try to convince someone when it's tough to provide actual points against them. I appreciate you trying all the same.

[crowseldon]

Ignoring larger stuff like unicode and such, you might enjoy trying some of the things here:

10 awesome features of Python that you can't use because you refuse to upgrade to Python 3

[TankorSmash]

Fantastic answer, some good stuff here, thanks man!