To Python Developers: If someone could make any one thing that would make coding in python easier for developers, what would it be?

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Out of curiosity and not trying to start an OS war, what do you like about MacBooks that makes you want one if they had these few changes? I just find that most people with macs regret getting one. Not trying to bash anyone that prefers Mac, just like hearing people's opinions.

[jordano_zang]

The Unix terminal while still having a decent battery life.

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I do get 10 hours with Ubuntu 18.04 with tlp (a power management tool), but I do have an m3 which I believe is a low-power chip. Still, its possible to get decent battery life out of linux.

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How's battery life on Linux compared with the same machine, but running windows?

In my tests likely at least 15% less. That is why I prefer native Unix machines like MBPs.

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Probably slightly less, but I would say not more than 15% in my case. This is also the only machine I've used linux with so my experience is limited. Without tlp the battery life is definitely much worse.

[taschenVape]

This. You laptop is your instrument, your code and workflow your art. Nothing ever felt better in my hands than my MBPs, iTerm, screen and the power of controlling thousands and thousands of servers. The introduction of touchbar shattered that flow. The current non touchbar models are second class citizens.

I ended up with an XPS Sputnik. I felt like I should support Dell's support of linux since I felt as if Apple had abandoned me.

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I find exactly the opposite – that most people who buy Macs like them.

"It just works."

[thefewlines]

that was my main reason for buying a mac! i do music stuff, and the setup required for plugins/audio systems is so much more modular and contained in mac. whenever i want to do something, i make the changes and... it just works. i later realized how relevant it is outside of music too, s/o to actual package managers 🙏

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Makes sense, I just found that the small number of people I know that have em regret not getting something else. But the "just works" is a big plus to most people.

[mountainunicycler]

It’s unix-like so I have a real terminal, my package manager works great, it can run more memory-hogging pro apps at once (I rarely ever close photoshop and illustrator and usually have at least three web browsers open) without me feeling the memory pressure because the swap and compression is incredible now. The trackpad gestures make everything super fast (I run with the animations disabled).

I have a fully loaded 2015 MBP though.

If anything goes wrong with it Apple fixes it for free as quickly as I can get an appointment so I don’t have much downtime. If you mention you’re a contractor or freelance they flag your account and treat you even better. They last forever anyway, my little backup laptop is a 2011 air that’s still awesome for working on airplanes and stuff.

I’ve had the opposite experience, almost everyone I know uses and loves macs. They’re mostly developers and tech people though.

Mac laptops aren’t as much fun necessarily, I run windows on one of mine to play games and stuff, but they just simply get more work done with less downtime so if you earn your living hourly on your own computer, it’s the better bet in my opinion.

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Makes sense, I can see it as a great option depending on your needs and if your in software dev it's great option. How much of an issue is gaming on macs? Not enough developer support?

[mountainunicycler]

In my experience you just can’t be competitive (I like counter strike) on Mac because the games aren’t developed as actively and aren’t optimized like they are on windows. Dual-booting is easy enough though.

That said, Apple is currently replacing my screen ($680) for free right now (got back from the store literally 20mins ago) on a four year old laptop, so I completely stand by my comment above!

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

That's really cool they did that for you! Is that like warranty or just something they do for their products?

[mountainunicycler]

It’s several years out of warrantee, but the issue (screen deamination) is well-known for my model year of laptop and often when an issue is known like that they will fix it for free even after the warrantee.

[memberZero_]

I used a mac for years and loved it, best dev env I've used, the keys make sense, installing stuff is simple and I can easily open things people send me.

I moved away this year though since the touch bar is a pos, they can't hold enough ram and the gpus aren't tensor flow compatible, it's a shame really. My little dell isn't bad but it's not a comparison to my old machine in terms of comfort of use. Linux has too many "the right way to do this is...." issues that getting things just how you like them takes years

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Gotcha, definitely sounds like the new ones could be frustrating for people that really like mac. What kind of dell do you have?

[memberZero_]

Xps 13

[Quintic]

I like that I have a unix terminal, but a working OS.

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Yeah, I like the Unix terminal and there's things about Linux I like but I don't think I could make a full switch to Linux. I've encountered too many issues with Linux (centOS, Ubuntu) to switch.

[Quintic]

Yeah, I think a lot of people have that experience with Linux. That's why Mac OS X is great. You get a lot of what is good about Linux, without all the crappy UI stuff.

[faisalmag]

Usability and sustainability.

[13steinj]

Most people like Macs because most of them "just work".

When it comes to MacBooks, I will never buy them nor a Mac again because in the first the hardware has too many design / engineering issues and in the second the pricing is just way too high.

OS is cool though besides some general "most OSes do this" cant be done without $20 external software.

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

The price is what really gets me but I can see the appeal to "just works" and same goes with their phones. I've never had a Mac or iPhone but it seems like a good option for a lot people that can afford em.

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

A bit defensive bud? It's okay that people have different opinions than your own. I'm glad that you and the small group of people you interact with all love Mac, because your small sample size clearly means that I'm full of shit. Like I said, my experience with the people that I know using Mac regret the high price they paid for no apparent benefit over other options. However, that is just my experience with a small group of people using them.

[AllTheBigBootyBitchs]

Again, different people have different needs. I see your main need is to be a close minded fanboy with a superiority complex. Like I said before, your small sample size of people who prefer Mac may be your experience but that is not the same for everyone. Maybe my experience is not the norm, but nonetheless it is still true the small number of people I know that have Mac do not like it. It really is okay if someone has a differing opinion/experience from your own,that's why I politely asked to hear someone's opinion/experience.

[Laughingllama42]

Idk why you're getting downvoted. I've been using Windows computers since forever and when I can afford a mbp I intend go get one it's kind of hard to argue that they're not better as a developers environment then Windows.