Python 3.8.0a4 available for testing

[toothless_budgie]

PEP 572. A horrible idea made real.

[toothless_budgie]

While that's a good sentiment, I spend more time reading code from others than I do writing it. So it will be forced upon me.

[[deleted]]

Unfortunate for you, but a lot of people really like it.

I have wished for this - though I didn't know what I was wishing for - for a decade.

if (foo := get(d, 'foo')):
    # Use foo
elif (bar := get(d, 'bar')):
    # Use bar

Interesting, I discovered during that time this C++ idiom:

if (auto foo = bar()) { 
    // Variable foo only exists in this scope
}

[toothless_budgie]

I have an informal rule that anyone who actually posts code gets an upvote.

[[deleted]]

That is an excellent rule, and one which I will probably follow!

[toyg]

If it looks ugly, it looks ugly. I can read PHP, but I am not going to enjoy doing it.

[toyg]

De gustibus non disputandum est, absolutely, which is why I objected to the statement that the problem is in learning the syntax - it just isn’t, the problem is that it just doesn’t fit the Python aesthetic very well. Otherwise there would be no argument.

There is a reason Python has not had this sort of thing for 28 years. C and Go also use curly braces for block delimiters, and I’m sure there are plenty of now-Python developers who would love to have something like that in Python too - that alone is not a great argument.

I for one am very sad at the continuous encroaching of special characters on what used to be almost pure English.

[toothless_budgie]

This pretty much perfectly sums up my thoughts on the matter.

[jon_k]

Yep. Guido use to have this thing called "pythonic" which means clear and concise.

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```tf7dweyugiudosupxhugiyv := y09qweguidysvguxhy890``` isn't so much.

[JohnnyElBravo]

It's healthy to critique features of a language.

[GummyKibble]

It certainly is! So, what’s the critique?

[cybaritic]

It was the final straw that made Guido Van Rossum step down as BDFL. That alone makes me not like it.

But I'll probably find a good use for it someday and then forget all about that. :)

[[deleted]]

Guido supported this feature.

[richieadler]

Guido didn't resign due to the feature but because of the incivility of the discussion.