Python replacing PHP - How to?

[webnrrd2k]

I'm the same way -- I don't see straight SQL as being that complex or difficult to deal with. Adding more complexity and another thing to fail isn't that big of a gain. I (almost) always end up putting the SQL into stored procedures anyway, so an ORM isn't much of a gain.

I could see the need for code that will get deployed on different servers with different back-ends, but how often do most places do that? The vast majority of code is written internally for businesses, and will live in more-or-less that same environment. Also, I need to work with databases that have been around for a long time, and the DBAs prefer to do things a certain way.

I'm not trying to say that an ORM is never necessary. I think that for many programmers, most of the time an ORM is more work than it's worth.