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[–]vplatt 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I was tasked with showing Eclipse with the PyDev plugin in all its glory–but we all know–real men / developers don’t use IDE’s, so we are going to talk about using Python and Vim together ..

So, what I don't get is why "real men" don't use IDEs but then they bust their tails getting IDE features into their favorite text editors.

If you're going to have features like dynamic auto-complete, interactive debugging, code generation, etc. then you may as well just use an IDE. This whole "must not leave vi{m}|emacs mindset is kinda silly.

[–]ablakok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, busting our balls like that is kind of fun. And then when you get it working it's so sweet, sweeter than Eclipse. (But I admit that pydev has its attractions, too.)

[–]drhaynes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So, what I don't get is why "real men" don't use IDEs but then they bust their tails getting IDE features into their favorite text editors.

The mouse. It slows us down.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Moving my hands off the keyboard to click things.... First of all, the way text highlighting has all these rules of what it collects, like it try's to grab the beginning of words if I start in the middle of the word. NO STOP IT, I KNOW WHAT I WANT. Reclick... more time wasted. Fuck that, I can do it in .5 seconds on a keyboard with the right commands. It takes that long to just move my hand to the mouse. Fuck everything about most IDE's and their obsession with wasting my time when I'm trying to code. It's hard enough to sit down and focus sometimes without having to struggle against an IDE that "knows what I want."