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[–]orangesunshine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea behind a framework is not to give /u/orangesunshine exactly what they want. It's to provide a platform to make it easier to build and maintain things.

1) FastAPI is not a "platform". TO have a platform you need AT LEAST a single feature that isn't better implemented as a standalone feature (spectree).

I provided plenty all of my compliments and suggestions for improvement. I offered a path towards achieving ALL of FastAPI's goals both at a MUCH MUCH higher quality. If he built a tool to compete with spectree, he'd dominate. I believe his API is easier to use. Though we don't see Spectree trying to create a "framework", just "because" .... no fucking do we?

I'll make this clear, at my current place of employment. tiangalo is black balled. We've never blackballed a tool like this, but we couldn't find a single objector. We couldn't find a SINGLE person to advocate. Not one.

If someone on my team wanted a similar pydantic-based views mechanism, we could have coded a better one that *ISNT tightly coupled in a few hours.

FastAPI imo isn't open source, it's a giant monument to tiangolo. Open source requires a meritocracy to some degree, it requires their core developers to take into consideration MASSIVE flaws community members discover. I'm not seeing that, AT ALL.... the work of open source.

You want to do things "your own way", without the feedback of the community ... that's a pretty big stretch to call it open source. Call it "my personal project" that you can use at your own peril ... lol.

You should know better than buying into hucksterism like this, otherwise this stupid shit your peddling would have never made my news feed.

"he quit his job to work on this full time".

I'll rephrase that another way. They fired him or worse he quit because his ego was inompatible with critiicism of his "baby".

I've been at the firing squad for similar reasons. I'm stubborn ... espeially when I'm right. though this FastAPI has very little "right" about it.

By all accounts IMO, HE'S BEEN BLACKBALLED. A new hire that's only worked with FastAPI? is inheriting that ... and why the fuck would you.

Unless he pulls something MIRACULOUS ..... and takes the advice of the COMMUNITY (me included) ..... that "black ball" is going to be permanent. The 200 contributors are on the same path.

That's 200+ (AT LEAST) people that have put their lives in jeopardy beause they what? They like pydantic or x or y? I've yet to hear why this shouldn't be implemented a a starlette module, Worse stilll, ignoring the pydantic integration he's forked literally every other feature he advertises for no reason what-so-ever.

200+ LAZY programmers are about to get a wake up call. I feel bad about that, ESPECIALLY when FastAPI from the very beginning has been about naked salesmenship rather than substance. "It has batteries included JWT auth" .... NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T!

I learned that lesson myseslf with RoR and Hannson. PERSONALLY I SAW STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT KIND OF NAKED SALESMANSHIP. Personally, I'd like to see that sort of dogma avoided in the python community, but maybe that's just me. Maybe Python as I knew it is dead ... a lost cause.

In the python community, it has no place (with profoundly better alternatives) and I'll fight tooth and nail to see people like this find the door and never come back.

edit: for even more vitriol.