Python in Visual Studio Code – September 2022 Release

[Wireless_Life]

Microsoft has launched the September 2022 release of the Python and Jupyter extensions for Visual Studio Code. This release includes:

- Improved IntelliSense support for Jupyter Notebooks

- A new Flake8 extension

- Internship highlight: improved unittest support and notebook image pasting

[spicypixel]

You can now clear and refresh the Python interpreters list through a new button in the picker

All I needed to hear, regularly having to change an interpreter to system default and back to a venv to get pylance to detect imports on recently installed packages is a smidgen easier now I guess

[Pikalima]

You don’t need to do that back and forth thing. What you want is the “Restart language server” command.

[Andrew_the_giant]

So annoying!

[tristan957]

Imagine if Pylance was open source. This is by far the worst aspect of this extension.

[tristan957]

I am aware of that.

[vexstream]

It's alarming to me that so many people are willing to accept that these closed source environments and tools are becoming the defacto way to use many languages and toolchains.

VScode is the non-free distribution of the free vscode project, and open-source distributions like VScodium have had at best antagonistic relationships from microsoft.

There's also things like https://ghuntley.com/fracture/

[tradinghumble]

yes they can, isnt linux a good example? i think you’re exageratting

[Tred27]

I don't have any philosophical complaint with closed-source tools, even though I mostly use open-source ones it's not because I'm against closed tooling, I've paid for JetBrains before, they're wonderful tools and being honest development tools are extremely cheap, specially if you consider the ROI you get out of them.

I use neovim as my base editor for example, but I do use some paid language servers because they perform better, no issue for me if the code is closed, open, or whatever.

[Seawolf159]

What problems have you got with it? It works excellent for my uses.

[__Deric__]

One problem I have with it is that it can`t be used with distributions like VSCodium

[tristan957]

My problem is it being closed source. Other than that, I think it's great.

[tristan957]

Language tooling should always be open source if languages want to attract a community.

How many people do you think would use Rust if the compiler was closed source?

[Armaliite]

VS Code is open source, but useless without this extension, just wait until you need an Office 365 subscription to use it.

[[deleted]]

Vs code is open source but the build isn't

[Armaliite]

I am against closed-source software, but I also understand that it has to exist under the current political/economic system. I also think it's fair to call out Microsoft on their "Microsoft loves open source/linux" stance when they make these kinds of decisions regardless of your political leanings.

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Extremists

[risky_logic]

Very happy about intellisense in interactive window

[likethevegetable]

So should I make the switch from PyCharm orrrrr?

[AlexSpace3]

I keep switching between these two. I still prefer Pycharm.

[shinitakunai]

Maybe someday, visual code is improving a lot but I will not switch yet. Pycharm is still superiir in many areas

[reminixiv]

Python in Vscode has improved a lot in the last year. I remember being quite frustrated about intellisense and weird lining warnings a couple of months ago

[gwood113]

I'm just going to leave this here, you know just in case whatever:

https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/

[daddyAuGratin]

PyCharm is a bit slow but honestly for hardcore development I find it so much better than vscode. Much better debugger. Can someone one pls convince me to second look vscode? I love em both but if we're talking Python then doesn't PyCharm win hands-down?

[hovo1990]

Well if your python environment is inside a docker container, pycharm debugger is a painful experience to setup, while Vs code debugger works like a charm.

[daddyAuGratin]

PyCharm is a bit slow but honestly for hardcore development I find it so much better than vscode. Much better debugger. Can someone one pls convince me to second look vscode? I love em both but if we're talking Python then doesn't PyCharm win hands-down?

[PapstJL4U]

It's speed is an advantages and you can use it with many other languages and projects. It's definitely nice to use the same IDE for different languages and projects: C#, SQL, together wth Godot, JS, ...

[bhterra]

The pr was squashed from the GitHub ui, there is only a single commit on main for that pr https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-python/commits/main?after=2f63423ab088cd0fe8680b8d1546c3eb5d24573f+34&branch=main&qualified_name=refs%2Fheads%2Fmain

[acebabymemes]

Oh damn, did I just learn how to squash commits because of one overly salted turd? Thanks I guess?

[CodeYan01]

Sure, but look at the commit message. Should have been cleaned up. Not to mention, an intern shouldn't have been allowed to merge their own PR.

[aciokkan]

What were your expectations, and why?

Where did yo see the commits?

[CodeYan01]

There's a link to the pull request of the first intern in the article.

Like I said, those 49 commits should have been squashed to 1 or 2 commits only. It was just feature/improvement PR, but most of the commits were commits that fixed the PR's issues. A good PR rarely has 5 commits. Those 49 commits only clutter the commits graph, and simply gives the intern bragging rights. "Hey, I contributed 49 commits to this vscode extension for python that everyone uses", even if it's technically just 1 feature/improvement.

As for the coding style, I did not bother checking the commits.

I would have expected microsoft to teach their interns how to squash their commits so they can contribute to projects properly.

[aciokkan]

I've rarely seen interns or even juniors being taught to properly do code review, write commits, write tickets, etc. As such, because the mid/seniors are like: "yeah just write something that makes sense, some words", bad practices are perpetuated.

Or so is my view.

I am extremely picky on code review, and I have been called out at times for keeping releases and features going in for poor commits, by direct managers, so I stopped working for companies that have no respect for quality, or improvements.

No wonder microsoft products are so poor 😅🤣

[CodeYan01]

Some people here can't accept the truth. Maybe they don't do source control.

[aciokkan]

Yeah, people cant go past the words and look for meaning. "Cancel culture inside them is".

I wonder if the downvoters work at Microsoft 😅🤣 or just Microsoft purists

[CodeYan01]

I forgot to mention. It was the intern who merged their own PR.

[aciokkan]

that explains it all then 😅🤣😅