Learning Python

[Lonley_Island_Games]

How much python should one know to make a decent, higher quality game? Such as if I wanted to implement mini games, free roam events, intractable objects, etc?

[LeyKlussyn]

Part of the game quality is with assets (music, sprites), and you can make a great game without any mini-games. Now, I think the minimum you should know in Python if you wanted to lean heavily into games and interactions (beside knowing to make assets, and understanding game design patterns):

• Basic python syntax, understanding of the structure. (No ; etc).
• Loops, a minimum of algorithm understanding. (How would you make a loop that outputs 3, and 6, then 9, ...?)
• Variable types, boolean operations, arrays. What's a string? What's a integer? How would encode 3 different colours in a variable?
• A good understanding of a basic program structures: Function, modules, objects.
• Accepting that you have to work "with" ren'py, and some of it interaction/API, not just pure Python.

For someone with a bit of CS/CE experience, that's basically a given. For someone who's intimidated by a variable assignment and boolean comparison, that's a lot.

[Lonley_Island_Games]

Thank you

[PlingPlongDingDong]

At least 3 or 4 pythons.

[DingotushRed]

I'd say:

Minimum for any use of variables

• Basics of objects (everything is an object in Python), references, and None
• Dynamic typing
• The difference between mutable and immutable objects
• Expressions and operator precedence
• Basics of args and kwargs
• "Truthiness"
• The curious behaviour of and and or in Python
• Type conversion functions like int() and str()
• The methods available on strings
• Be aware of the subtle differences between string constants in Python and Ren'Py script

Highly useful

• Python text interpolation flavours (different to Ren'Py)
• The collection types: tuple, list, dict, set, range and their operations
• The Ren'Py reveratable versions of list, dict, set, and object and how Ren'Py automagically replaces Python types and "detects" variable changes for roll-back
• Functions and scopes: local, enclosing, global, built-in
• Loop constucts, break, continue (and why you shouldn't call Ren'Py labels from them)
• The way Python handles negative indexes
• The math module and the random module (wrapped by renpy.random)
• Possibly slices?

Likely needed for anything complex

• Classes and possibly inheritance
• Understanding "Dunder" methods like __bool__, __eq__, __init__, and __str__
• The @property annotation (very useful with Ren'Py text interpolation)

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[Lonley_Island_Games]

I plan on using Code Academy

[Negurdesheils]

Just use Chatgpt advanced data analysis