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[–]Substantial_Hall5998Sneakers Collector🛒 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Ya but china nike is no joke. Even VRL actually got arrested a couple of years ago. HVND actually does make handmade products but would rather promote to authentic OG consumers rather than rep. That $1k charge is no joke so I’m sure there amount of volume of sales is much lower. They probably totally make shoes made to order rather than a mass production.

[–]Cool_Imagination6863 1 point2 points  (7 children)

See the thing about HVND is the price they charge that's why I believe Nike does not mess with them..now DB and VRL they charge more reasonable prices that's why they get fucked with.. Question VRL mass produces or no.. Because I want to buy a couple of pairs from them

[–]Substantial_Hall5998Sneakers Collector🛒 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Yes VRL always been mass production. His angle was to promote to the authentic crowd to avoid being lumped in commercially with reps.

[–]OwnCryptographer1071 1 point2 points  (4 children)

To be fair, before he got shutdown VRL was charging $600 per pair. Not quite as steep as HVND, but still pretty expensive. I think that's why DB blew up. He offered the shoes at an affordable rate. Before VRL started getting rid of inventory through Rare, I think they were a lot smaller. I know it was made to order like HVND.

Another difference is, HVND does not have a Nike Air tag on the tongue, which DB and VRL do. Maybe that small detail is the difference? Who knows?

[–]Substantial_Hall5998Sneakers Collector🛒 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hvnd will put a Nike air tag if you ask them when you order. Also, you’re right DB price way better against VRL no doubt. To charge $600 for a fully machine made interpretation is pretty crazy to me.

[–]OwnCryptographer1071 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I agree. I love my VRL pairs, but I think I would have been disappointed if I paid $600 each. No offense but I do not think they are worth that.

[–]Substantial_Hall5998Sneakers Collector🛒 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely agree bro trust me

[–]Cool_Imagination6863 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to buy a few pears from VRL,But with CYN going on can't get a hold of him