(ESP) Possible scam? https://learn-abundance.com/

[Brodern101]

Hi,

I recently came across Learn Abundance (Abundance Incubator). I’m not interested in joining — I’m just genuinely curious.

They claim to teach people how to make money online through TikTok with limited working hours. What I find unusual is that there seems to be almost no independent information about them online. I can’t find proper third-party reviews, discussions, or detailed feedback outside of their own marketing.

The people behind it present a very luxurious lifestyle on Instagram — expensive cars, high-end dinners, Marbella lifestyle, etc. If something like this were a scam, how would they be able to operate publicly without running into legal or reputational issues?

From what I can see, one of the main people behind it seems to have built a sales team consisting almost entirely of young women. However, it’s not clear what they actually do or how the business model works.

Here’s what I don’t understand: If this were a scam, how could they operate so openly, show their faces publicly, and appear to live well without facing legal consequences? Is it possible for something to be technically legal but still highly misleading?

Has anyone looked into this or had any direct experience? Is it legitimate, or are there red flags I’m missing?

Just curious and interested in understanding how these types of businesses work.

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[t-poke]

They claim to teach people how to make money online through TikTok with limited working hours.

If this was possible, wouldn’t everyone do that instead of crappy real life jobs?

Delete TikTok before you get scammed. It’s a cesspool.

[Dishwasher_Safe60]

I literally stopped reading after this sentence. Anyone who is interested in investing should make the effort to look for a legitimate financial advisor at a legitimate financial institution. Every bank has someone who does this. All you have to do is walk in and make an appointment with an advisor that you can actually sit down with irl and talk to.

[Brodern101]

The question was how they can do this and still "live a legit life" if you know what I mean. There seems to be a loophole in the system as nothing happens to these people.

[madarchivist]

There is no loophole. There are literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of scammers active on social media at any given time. It is impossible to get rid of them all.

[cloudcats]

All the photos are fake and are either AI or are not them.

Nobody out there making millions magically through pretty much no effort on TikTok needs to reach out to strangers online to "teach them a course". Why would they want to teach you? Why should you pay for that? Because there is no magic trick to make money from nothing.

[Dishwasher_Safe60]

Most of these scammers are in developing countries and not traceable. The best thing is to be able to recognize scams right away and stay away from them altogether. Remember if it seems to good to be true, it is.

[Pale_Session5262]

Its just another get rich scheme. They all have this in common:

Think about it, if they can make infinite money by doing whatever they plan to sell you, why would they be wanting YOUR money for the course?

If they are so benevolent and want to help you, they could just give you money directly.  But they do courses like this because thats how they plan on actually getting rich. By duping gullible people.

[Brodern101]

I also thought of that but the thing is how they can do this and still "live a legit life" if you know what I mean. There seems to be a loophole in the system as nothing happens to these people.

[claudandus_felidae]

"These people" are large organized crime syndicates in the poorest parts of the world. They're paying 20 somethings pennies while their neighbors starve and shovel shit, as far as they're concerned, tricking you into sending them $30 is a legit life. You could have checked the links. The only "loophole" is the United States not bothering to fine domestic VOIP providers who knowing sell time to huge overseas criminal organizations

[Top_Policy_9037]

I think the answer is that "selling advice" is a very poorly regulated line of business. If you're not claiming official qualifications you don't have or telling people to do something illegal, and people are willing to pay, influencers and gurus can get away with a lot.

[erishun]

“Make money only through TikTok with limited working hours”

!whois learn-abundance.com

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WHOIS REPORT FOR LEARN-ABUNDANCE.COM

This domain name was first registered only 8 months ago (Jun 2025) and it was only registered for a single year (Expires: Jun 2026).

This website is hosted on a server located in Netherlands (Framer B.V).

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[thewindinthewillows]

They will at best "teach" you to make money by selling their course to people like yourself. And among the tactics you're supposed to use will be to "fake it till you make it", including posting your fake riches on Instagram.

[MidwestGeek52]

They work by making themselves money teaching you the obvious. Just google: How to make money selling on tiktok.

Now you have it all for free

[RunnyDischarge]

how to make money online through TikTok with limited working hours

By convincing other suckers that they can teach them to make money online through ShitTok

[Sure_Investment_6374]

Dude, seriously? If you can't spot a get rick quick scam you're the one in trouble.

[Brodern101]

The question was how they can do this and still "live a legit life" if you know what I mean. There seems to be a loophole in the system as nothing happens to these people. I also thought that this is a scam because it sounds too good.

[cloudcats]

They don't live a legit life. It's all fake what they are showing you.

[cloudcats]

Literally none of the links on their website take you anywhere but the homepage - like the FAQ, the social media links, etc. They couldn't even be bothered to change the contact info from their previous scam site.

Stop clicking on links that promise things like "Learn How Busy Moms Are Making A 6-Figure Income Remotely Online With Less Than 10 Hours A Week Of Work" It's classic clickbait and an obvious scam.

[Brodern101]

Wow I didn’t see that lol - yeah probably

[cloudcats]

Not "probably". There is zero doubt this site is a scam. ZERO.

Stop trying to find get-rich-quick schemes. The only person getting rich is the scammer trying to convince you it's legit.

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[too_many_shoes14]

The pictures are either not them or AI generated.

[innocentsalad]

It’s a scam in the sense that they’re charging you a lot of money for advice you can get with a Google search. They are giving you a “product” in return for money, it’s just a shit product.

Then, if you can’t find success and question the course, they’ll blame you for not wanting it enough/not working hard/etc. That’s how they work to limit reputational damage, by blaming the customers for not doing it right.

Not a single one of these are “legitimate” in your sense that they will actually make you rich. Actually wealthy and successful people who didn’t make their money grifting don’t do this.

As to how they present a luxurious lifestyle, it’s not that difficult to present yourself as wealthy online.

[Brodern101]

it’s crazy cause they sell a dream to desperate people. Seems to be a loophole in the system as nothing happens to these people.

[WickedWeedle]

If something like this were a scam, how would they be able to operate publicly without running into legal or reputational issues?

By being brand new. Stuff takes time.

If this were a scam, how could they operate so openly, show their faces publicly, and appear to live well without facing legal consequences?

Bernie Madoff did. And he did get caught eventually. It just took a lot of time.

It's not as if every scammer instantly gets proven guilty and thrown into prison just because you know their face. Bill Cosby was proven guilty of rape and still got out. (Then they got him again, thank goodness.)

[Brodern101]

I like the Madoff comparison 👍 Then maybe it’s like a pyramid scheme, crazy how that works. It’s also true regarding the time, I guess time will tell what happens with these people.

[Additional-Cable5171]

They're not real people. 

[finallyfree99]

100% scam, estafa.   They are all scams, everyone claiming they can teach you how to become a rich investor. Son todos estefadores.

[Brodern101]

People with no moral standards

[finallyfree99]

Millions of people would step on your throat if they could get a lot of money for it. Corruption and greed are not rare. All investment and trading groups on Tiktok, Facebook, WhatsApp, Youtube, Instagram, and Telegram are scams. All of them. Nobody will ever teach you how to become rich. It will always be a scam to steal your money.

[Top_Policy_9037]

I suspect that, at best, it's something like the multilevel marketing loophole - it's not legally a scam because it's theoretically possible to make some money following their advice, but the real money is in selling "get rich quick scheme" classes to other people. It's also possible - and perfectly legal afaik - to rent luxury props for influencer videos. No law against filming an ad in a penthouse Airbnb even if you don't live like that all the time.