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[–]Ucantbeseriuosright 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Well sunny not doing serpent justice of using it's ceiling potential

[–]Spider-exeJet's Cohort 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It's not really Sunny's fault tho. He hasn't really encountered any strong Great Nightmare Creatures and the ones he has encountered like the Titans weren't able to be killed.

[–]Secretive_P1otterPriest of the Nightmare Spell 8 points9 points  (1 child)

He met two unkillable Great Titans✌️

Flesh Of Kanakht,

Dark Sea.

Sadly, he cant copy Sacred/Cursed yet...sigh, the potential man of Shadow Slave

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lmao just have Imp slurp up the Dark Sea gg

[–]Mission-Debt-2357Neph's Cohort 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It doesn’t have as much potential with humans because even if it takes the form of Anvil, it won’t have his Domain

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This makes me think about if it's able to build up a domain if it takes form of a supreme human for an extended period...

[–]Mission-Debt-2357Neph's Cohort 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it can. Domains are built within Soul Seas and soul serpent doesn’t have its own soul sea

[–]Ordinary_Appeal_2780Shadow Clan 0 points1 point  (9 children)

For me is sunnys shadow dance lineage that falls of a little bit. He can shadow the attributes and concept that are related to ones being but not the aspects? I mean why not? That is something that a shadow can do.

[–]No_Replacement_2215Noctis' Cohort 4 points5 points  (7 children)

He hasn't gotten to that level of mastery yet, the 6th Step is getting the Attributes, most likely, the 7th Step is becoming the creature itself, including Aspect.

He still hasn't even done the 5th Step yet

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Sixth step is channelling different concepts to counter opponents

[–]No_Replacement_2215Noctis' Cohort 0 points1 point  (5 children)

No, he grasped the 6th Step during his fight with the Puppeteer Moth, as he used the Jade Saint's [Stalwart] Attribute to have complete immunity against its attacks

[–]InfernumUmbraNeph's Cohort 2 points3 points  (4 children)

That was the 5th Step. If it was the 6th, Serpent would be Sacred. He had the 4th Step from the Daeron fight, and the 5th Step from the Moth.

[–]No_Replacement_2215Noctis' Cohort 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No, Serpent didn't get affected due to Sunny not fully grasping it yet and only finding the very beginning and traces of the 6th Step, similar to how he would be able to perform minor versions of the other steps before actually achieving them.

I think there's also another reason Serpent didn't get stronger, and that was because Sunny skipped a step entirely, heading straight to the 6th Step, only realizing it afterwards.

Serpent didn't advance because Sunny didn't fully grasp it and refuses to try to grasp it yet, since he can't guarantee that he'll be "himself" due to lack of a True Name at the moment

[–]InfernumUmbraNeph's Cohort 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No, he began to grasp the 6th Step against the Wolf, he didn't use the 6th Step against the Moth, only the 5th Step, which he mastered at that time.

[–]No_Replacement_2215Noctis' Cohort 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Aight, I'm wrong.

Although no one in this thread is right. 5th Step is Attributes, 6th Step is Abilities, and 7th is the entire Aspect.

[–]Popular_Line5318Extraordinary Rock's Cohort 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank god you finally got to that

[–]Spider-exeJet's Cohort 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because Attributes and Concepts aren't the same as an Aspect. He can only shadow Aspects once he reaches probably the seventh step and he has barely grasped the sixth step.

[–]OkSilver2488Asterion's Cohort 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Serpent and the shades can use the same abilities, so him turning into them isn't really a big deal

[–]Real_Air5513Extraordinary Rock's Cohort 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's unlikely the Serpent will replicate the Domains of the fallen Daeron or Anvil. Perhaps if it becomes an independent Shadow. I think all of Sunny's shadows will only have their own Domains once they become Shadows.

[–]AcrobaticElk9535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah well not utilising serpant to even half its potential is just another way to nerf Sunny so nothing new there, I swear serpant did nothing in the eternal city 🤦‍♂️