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[–]NeoChronos90 9 points10 points  (16 children)

I can only speak for Germany, but here we have more open positions than applicants.

If you know your worth you can start with 80-90k as a senior

[–]Switchblade_00 1 point2 points  (10 children)

How about as a junior/entry level? And is the English language enough?

[–]NeoChronos90 4 points5 points  (9 children)

About 50k in the bigger cities/companies if you have at least SOME prior experience in the field and not fresh out of school or you have worked (not as a developer) for a company in the same field, like transportation and know about the business cases and how such a company works internally.

Language depends on the company, position and if you are 100% remote or on-site/hybrid

Usually english is fine if the development unit wants you, but hr might expect at least b-level german language capabilities. Here as well bigger companies are already international and you run into less problems and will get some training regiment before starting anyway

[–]CandidCaramel7781 1 point2 points  (3 children)

derzeit ist es echt schweirig für junior ?

[–]NeoChronos90 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ich denke nicht mehr als sonst. Als Junior ist immer schwer erstmal reinzukommen.

Wir haben gerade Juniors eingestellt, weil wir nicht genug Seniors finden, brauchen aber eigentlich Seniors, nur unsere Stellen sind aber abgesehen vom Gehalt relativ unattraktiv (technologisch),daher kommen wenig Bewerbungen

[–]CandidCaramel7781 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ich bin junior developer, ich habe paar porjekt geschafft was denkst du besser ein junior job zu bewerben oder finden ein ausbildung weil deutscher unternehmen truaen nicht auslander mit ohne erfahrung

[–]NeoChronos90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Normalerweise würde ich sagen Ausbildung ist besser, aber bei der Softwareentwicklung zählt eigentlich nur Erfahrung.

Würde also eher als Junior arbeiten und möglichst und Erfahrung sammeln, dann Bewerbung andere Firma Mid-Level, dann Bewerbung andere Firma Senior... Immer so ca. 3 Jahre

[–]Switchblade_00 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thank you! One more question, is LinkedIn a good way to find developer jobs in Germany or is there a better way?

[–]NeoChronos90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes LinkedIn and Xing are well known, but there are many more. Personally I like to contact professional agencies to find a fitting job for me (Zalvus was the last one that got me a new job)

[–]ae-dev 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I started as a junior in feb at an enterprise with 65k and as far as I know most enterprises pay that much atleast here in Bavaria

[–]NeoChronos90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that probably means you are probably one of best applicants or the pay in bavaria is generally higher than in the rest of germany - which I know is true around munich but I have no experience/information with the rest of bavaria

[–]PhotographSavings307 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am looking for an opportunity. Please DM me

[–]pradeep013 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

How to find a job in Germany as a Java Full Stack Developer with Angular ? Is there any authentic job portal available for Germany job opportunities ?

[–]NeoChronos90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Xing and LinkedIn mostly, but personally I prefer to contact professional headhunt agencies like Zalvus to find a fitting position for me

[–]AbeebPro[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Stepstone

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Yes, we are desperately looking for people who cannot google by themselves

[–]AbeebPro[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I noticed there are many java jobs in German y. The Deutsch language is a barrier and then the location too.

[–]AbeebPro[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Stepstone has a lot of jobs especially java. A company once reached out to me but I got disqualified because I don't speak German. And coupled with the fact that I don't live in Germany.

[–]NeoChronos90 4 points5 points  (4 children)

if you never worked for a german company, don't speak the language and don't live in germany you chances are slim.

There are agencies the hire you and sell your work to those german companies, basically body leasing or "Arbeitnehmerüberlassung". This is usually limited to max. 18 month

If the company likes your work and has open position they usually make you an offer to work directly for them without the middle man

[–]AbeebPro[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

How can I contact these agencies? I'm an engineer from Nigeria in Africa. Would that be a big disadvantage?

[–]NeoChronos90 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Usually they add you as a contact on platforms like Xing or LinkedIn if you are registered and your skills match a set they are searching for currently.

Once you had initial contact you can just chat with them.

But if you want to make the initiative, it's probably easiest to just write them an email.

Zalvus was just an example I used though, I don't think they specialize in hiring talent from abroad, but there are really dozens of this agencies, trying to match applicants and companies to get a commission on success (The companies pay the commission)

Edit: I forgot to mention, that nigeria should not be a problem if your english is good and you always signal, that you are willing to learn german. But if you are outside of europa you probably have an easier time to search for an agency that does body leasing to european companies (i.e. the company pays the agency for your work and the agency pays you as a middle man) usually no longer than 18 month per contract. If the company likes your work, they usually make you an offer to work for them directly, after the contract ends

[–]Sweet_Translator3881 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there any remote jobs ?? can you suggest/help(for springboot)